purchased some 6000K HID's on thursday from http://myworld.ebay.com/autoluminate and they arrived today! got them for $55 shipped! usps express from cali. they have the same ballasts as Ilans HID's. (Xentec 35w) just got them installed and WOW well worth the 20 min to install. true plug and play design. i didnt have to modify anything and can go back to OEM in another 20 min. here are some progress pics:
pictures dont do it justice, these are BRIGHT!
just hope they last...(has warranty card at least)
_________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily
EatDirtFartDust Fanatic
Name : The Josh Age : 41 Location : Somewhere between Sullivan and Saint Peters Missouri. Joined : 2009-03-27Post Count : 284 Merit : 2
i still have brights, but they look like yellow shit now yes 9006 bulbs. some hid's are 55w and some are 35w. without looking at the 2 links i'd guess that's the difference. 55w will be a little brighter, but also take away ~1000K color. so 6000k bulbs in 35w(mine) are 5000k in 55w. anything over 6000k is too blue for me.
_________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily
EatDirtFartDust Fanatic
Name : The Josh Age : 41 Location : Somewhere between Sullivan and Saint Peters Missouri. Joined : 2009-03-27Post Count : 284 Merit : 2
Wow this looks really cool, especially for the amount of time put in! Looks like I'll have to add it to the list of summer projects. Thanks for the advice everyone!
Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
Subject: Re: Write-Up: HID Conversion Mon May 04, 2009 10:43 am
my passenger ballast went out on friday. i had a feeling it was defective b/c from the time i put it in i had a problem with that light coming on when cold.(just had to turn them off and back on to make them work) Friday morning it wouldnt come on at all, so i emailed the seller and he is warentying the ballast. he sent the new one out today. i'm guessing he is sending me a prepaid return box as well. i'll keep you guys informed. i still recommend this kit, factory defects happen and the seller/xentec handeled this problem very qucikly. i just hope it is the only bump in the road
_________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily
L8-2BNGO Enthusiast
Name : Devin Age : 38 Location : Orlando Joined : 2009-03-28Post Count : 135 Merit : 2
Subject: Re: Write-Up: HID Conversion Mon May 04, 2009 11:14 am
very nice man cant wait to see how bright they are!
turtleman Expert
Name : Codith Age : 37 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
my passenger ballast went out on friday. i had a feeling it was defective b/c from the time i put it in i had a problem with that light coming on when cold.(just had to turn them off and back on to make them work) Friday morning it wouldnt come on at all, so i emailed the seller and he is warentying the ballast. he sent the new one out today. i'm guessing he is sending me a prepaid return box as well. i'll keep you guys informed. i still recommend this kit, factory defects happen and the seller/xentec handeled this problem very qucikly. i just hope it is the only bump in the road
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they don't require return of the bad ballast.
Snowdog Addict
Name : Timo Age : 38 Location : Finland Joined : 2008-10-04Post Count : 732 Merit : 24
They have their problems, but the sellers always seem to be more than willing to send a replacement out ASAP! My seller wants me to pay to ship mine out first, and then they pay to ship a new one, and pay for the new one, to me. Very responsive, which means they're used to this sort of thing, which means that it's nothing extraordinary to have a ballast fail.
Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
true, but i know guys with expensive ballasts and bulbs failing (VW's). The r&d needed to make a HID last as long as halogens just isnt there yet IMO. hell, even the silverstars dont have the long lasting reputation even though i've had mine in for almost 5 years now. i really dont mind buying another HID kit for that price if this one fails after 3+ years. ($40 for silvers or $55 for HID's ... )
_________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily
manofmany Addict
Name : manofmany Age : 40 Joined : 2008-07-26Post Count : 611 Merit : 5
After installing the hids I got from ZZP I can say that I'm not overly impressed. It's a decent upgrade for the price and it does look much better, but when I took my car to Sharps Chapel in TN, the winding hilly roads there made my hids seem ineffective. They do not come close to comparing to the HID lights my RX8 or STS had.
Hell, I think the Silverstar Ultras I put in my Grand Cherokee (lows and fogs) put out much more light. But atleast it looks cool
L8-2BNGO Enthusiast
Name : Devin Age : 38 Location : Orlando Joined : 2009-03-28Post Count : 135 Merit : 2
Subject: Re: Write-Up: HID Conversion Tue May 05, 2009 1:43 am
matt why did you not go with ddm tunning hids? u saw mines where retarded bright and i have no probs
Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
Subject: Re: Write-Up: HID Conversion Tue May 05, 2009 7:32 am
b/c mine cost $55 shipped and are just as bright well, except for you have clear lenses and i have oem dispersion lenses.
_________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily
Shintsu Expert
Name : Shintsu Joined : 2007-10-14Post Count : 2979 Merit : -16
Subject: Lights galore Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:07 am
So looking around online I have several ideas and interesting thoughts regarding lights on the Riv. I am planning to order some high Lumen rated LEDs for the interior soon and I'll post pictures when they're installed - they're not terribly expensive so I'll give them a shot.
Now while searching I found LED DRLs. Not much interest to me since I have no DRLs, but I saw on an Accord forum where someone had used some PIAA Tera 6k LEDs as DRLs and they looked cool but as DRLs they don't need to do much of nothing I suppose. Do you all think there are any LEDs or brighter bulbs you could use in the cornering lights?
I have also discovered something I have never heard of before - HIRs. These are supposed to be extremely bright bulbs similar to HIDs but require no special wiring to use and work with nearly all 9005/9006 cars. They're supposedly factory equipment on the Viper, BMW Z8, Infinity I30, Chevy Avalanche and the Nissan Maxima. Here's the site that sells them: http://hirheadlights.com/
And here's what they look like:
The only thing I'm iffy on - they require some trimming of the bulbs (I think the plastic part) to make them fit identical to an OEM bulb). I was thinking of trying these out as high beams. Here's the bit on trimming them. They're brighter than standard bulbs without needing anything special so they seem well suited as brights.
Of course I'm still considering HIDs for the low beams, but I heard someone else bashing them saying you need special headlamp enclosures for them to work right. I know people here have done it - have you guys noticed any diffusion of the headlight pattern from using HIDs vs the standard bulbs? I also saw this which is discouraging and noticable even in the video as a huge difference. Has anyone else with the HID kits noticed this problem of people flashing the brights at you when driving by?
That said, has anyone ever managed to do a projector beam conversion? Here is one video that seems to explain how to make an HID headlamp assembly but in the process also a projector beam:
Where do you get a projector assembly to do it custom? I mean check this out - a custom Grand Am with projectors. They don't make them for that so how would someone make one for a Riv? Perhaps ambitious of me to say so but I might go ahead and do it and maybe make a write up depending on the cost. One problem I'm seeing though - what do you do about our lens? It has all those little ridges and stuff in the outer lens - how would you make it so it is simply a clear piece of plastic that fits over the headlight?
I'm not sure what they're categorized as, so can someone tell me the number type the cornering light bulbs are? I don't know what types of bulbs to look at to replace them with something brighter. One other lighting mod I'm thinking about, I want to get a strip of flexible LEDs 39" long that are white and mount them underneath the car right near the door. The ones I'm looking at are waterproof as well. My ideal setup would be to have these lights tucked away so you can't really see them and they will come on with the interior lights so that when you hit unlock they light up the ground next to the door but also they would come on if I turned the interior lights on via the dimmer. I think this would have a cool effect similar to paddle lights without looking tacky or ricey like neon lights would be. They sell tiny plastic mounts that you can screw in and I'd use a short screw to attach it on each side, although I might use some other adhesive or something - I'm just not sure how much I trust double sided tape to hold it up over time, but I know there are some heavy duty versions that might be suitable since no one will see them.
Any other ideas anyone would care to share or things you've done to improve the lightning of the car in someway (Interior or exterior)?
T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
Subject: Re: Write-Up: HID Conversion Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:35 am
Cool Beans
deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
Subject: Re: Write-Up: HID Conversion Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:25 am
I will say that I notice and HATE aftermarket, unaimed HIDs, and I usually flash my high beams at them oncoming because they are obnoxious and blinding. A proper HID will trim the upper portion of the light away, so it's not blinding to oncoming traffic. Just pull up in front of a wall in a car with Factory HIDs and compare the light pattern to that of an aftermarket conversion, which just has a big blinding globe of light. Nice for the driver, bad for everyone else.
Otherwise, go ahead and try a few things out. I'm all in favor of finding a better lighting solution!
IBx1 Expert
Name : ILAN Age : 33 Location : College Station, TX Joined : 2007-12-30Post Count : 4304 Merit : 69
There's definitely a lot of diffusion with mine, but I aim my headlights as properly as I can. Turtleman said that there was a certain bulb, like the H2S or H2D I forget, it has a ceramic coating on the tip to 'shorten' the projecting light and make it similar in length to a regular halogen light. Worth looking into as well, although they're a bit more expensive and hard to find.
Also, Shintsu, I believe one method was to get a headlamp assembly from a 1st gen CTS and cut the projecter bulbs and housings out of that...there's a video somewhere.
turtleman Expert
Name : Codith Age : 37 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
I will say that I notice and HATE aftermarket, unaimed HIDs!
I would say the same thing about unaimed or missinstalled halogen lights. I can't even tell you how many people I see driving around with one normal light and then the other light is obviously put in wrong because the beam is shooting up instead of at the road, but they either don't notice it or don't know how to fix it. The HID's that blind me the most are the ones in some of the factory equipped cars such as the Acura TL which apparently runs the HID's and the highbeams on at the same time a lot of hte time. And in general some of the auto-leveling systems just throw the headlights at you like a rave club, which is much worse to me.
Reflector lenses retrofitted with HID's is sometimes hit or miss, there. Some cars give you enough adjustability to make HID's behave enough and some lense designs are just better suited than others. I've never been flashed in the riv with HID's and I didn't adjust it. I would get flashed in my 00 eclipse though sometimes.
Ilan, it's called a D2R bulb (the "R" indicates reflector lense). That is a kind of universal part number that the OEM for HID systems use. I still don't know for sure if you can get a D2R lamp that fits a 9006/9005 socket.