Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all?
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turtleman Expert
Name : Codith Age : 37 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
Subject: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:59 pm
Any takers on whether or not this will do anything?
I just read one of the article deals on it and made one. I'd log and see how it works and report on it.
1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:15 pm
You're not going to tell us what the heck it is and is supposed to do?
BoattailBob Fanatic
Age : 58 Location : Bay Area, California Joined : 2007-06-05Post Count : 268 Merit : 0
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:03 pm
where's Chicken when you need him?
Shintsu Expert
Name : Shintsu Joined : 2007-10-14Post Count : 2979 Merit : -16
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:25 pm
Sorry to ask a dumb question but what are we looking at?
rivwilly107 Enthusiast
Name : Jim Age : 53 Location : Groton NY Joined : 2008-06-23Post Count : 232 Merit : 0
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:59 pm
Its an automatic fire extinguisher .If your engine catches fire , it lets loose.
IBx1 Expert
Name : ILAN Age : 33 Location : College Station, TX Joined : 2007-12-30Post Count : 4304 Merit : 69
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:05 am
BoattailBob wrote:
where's Chicken when you need him?
He has 666 posts as of right now, and he's probably saving that number, but lemme try out for his position:
I've looked into this for quite some time myself, and that supercharger should work very well. Not sure how you made it, but it should serve you well!!
TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:20 am
Ok i'm stumped. What is it?
1wickedninja Addict
Name : Josh Age : 36 Location : port saint lucie, Fl Joined : 2008-07-30Post Count : 647 Merit : 5
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:41 am
it looks like a vacuum canister made for cars with a big cam made to store extra vacuum. the cam robs vac causing loss of vacuum to the brakes making them not as effective or even could cause them to fail. i have one in my 87 monte carlo because it has a bigger cam and 13.5 -1 compression.
T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:44 am
Water injection Biotches!
Karma Aficionado
Name : Andrew Age : 40 Location : Ontario, Canada Joined : 2008-01-14Post Count : 1949 Merit : 123
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:45 am
That looks very much like something to "compliment" the vacuum system, by my guess.
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turtleman Expert
Name : Codith Age : 37 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:58 am
Sorry I did completely fail to say what it was. The canister is a cell for producing hydrogen vapor to be inducted into the motor and hopefully metered against some of the gasoline for the primary objective of improving fuel economy without sacrificing anything else, save a couple pounds of weight.
As I've read, there are some other neat things you can do with hydrogen such as altering the ratio of orthahydrogen to parahydrogen which significantly increases its effective octane rating so there is the possibility of using it as a KR reducer.
I've only just set this first version of it so I've got some experimenting ahead of me yet.
TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:38 am
Oh very interesting... How much did that setup run you?
Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:13 am
I've looked into this for quite some time myself, and that supercharger should work very.....wait....
Goddamn it!!!!
captshiner Junkie
Name : Andrew Age : 38 Location : Cincinnati, OH Joined : 2008-07-23Post Count : 756 Merit : -1
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:18 am
I have a friend that's running one of those in his '72 Nova. I'll have to ask him about it.
BKRIV Enthusiast
Name : Bill Location : Sandusky Ohio Joined : 2007-11-22Post Count : 160 Merit : 4
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:11 pm
Turtleman, I have been thinking about trying it on something old that I could afford to detonate but best of luck. Hydrogen generators seem to work quite well with diesel and have wondered about the supercharger. The embrittlement factor keeps me from trying it on my daily driver but from your posts it seems like you are the brave one of the group...keep us informed!
AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:19 pm
'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles ^^^ SOLD ^^^
#1BearsFan Enthusiast
Name : Bill Location : North Carolina Joined : 2008-07-28Post Count : 231 Merit : 4
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:43 pm
I was looking at that technology this week and while it's concept is good, noone is really gaining much in the way if mileage or power so I would say this technology is still a few years away... There were a couple of real world tests where they were running the HHO gas from the from the tank (and there was alot of gas bubbles coming out) and they weren't getting any mileage increase. They were looking in to leaning out the gas and feeding the HHO directly into the intake.. Would be cool to get another 5mpg or more just by puttin on a 250A alternator and a tank under the rear deck and pouring water in.
IBx1 Expert
Name : ILAN Age : 33 Location : College Station, TX Joined : 2007-12-30Post Count : 4304 Merit : 69
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:07 pm
AA wrote:
...for a second there I thought you were Chicken.
Come on, Mark!!! You gotta beat us before we take over your role on this site!!
Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:34 am
I'm totally going to try this but theres no way I'm messing hydrogen....I'm going to hook up a quart of Sunny D ® instead...
IBx1 Expert
Name : ILAN Age : 33 Location : College Station, TX Joined : 2007-12-30Post Count : 4304 Merit : 69
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:55 pm
Chicken wrote:
...I'm going to hook up a quart of Sunny D ® instead.
There he is!
turtleman Expert
Name : Codith Age : 37 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:59 pm
we'll see how this one holds up. I really don't want to put this thing in the trunk...
Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:03 pm
What happened to the first cannister???
turtleman Expert
Name : Codith Age : 37 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:55 pm
The one on the left is the replacement for my first one so that's what it's supposed to look like. The pipe warped and sucked inward. Despite the severe warping, it never broke seal so instead of leaking, it displaced all the air room out and squeezed water out of the outlet port into the motor at idle. It was interesting. It pretty much sounded like my xp cam magically turned into a S4 cam when i let off the throttle.
The new canister I made on the right is actually a reservoir for a home water faucet filter system. The inner volume is a little bit smaller but the cell electrode plate assembly fits and as a bonus, its clear.
For this next bit of testing and trial, I'm connecting the generator to the intake pipe near the throttle body instead of the vacuum system.
Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:09 pm
Mmmmmmm....Brita!
BKRIV Enthusiast
Name : Bill Location : Sandusky Ohio Joined : 2007-11-22Post Count : 160 Merit : 4
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Canister - Anyone looked into this at all? Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:49 pm
Codith - How is your mileage with the Hydrogen generation?
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