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Boattail Bill Fanatic
Name : Bill Age : 67 Location : Carson City, NV Joined : 2008-11-22 Post Count : 381 Merit : 4
| Subject: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:31 am | |
| Just cruising the forum and noticed there was nothing on the 425 Nailhead topic. - Figured that just wouldn't do!! So fortunately, I've got a little. Back in about '65, when I was a little tyke (maybe 8 or so), my dad bought a '64 Riviera from the bank on a repo deal. The car was only like one year old, so for our poor family, this was a big deal - an almost new, top-of-the-line Buick. Anyway, within a year or so, we were living out in the sticks, and not on a regular school bus route, so my mom would take us to school every day in the Rivi. I got to really love that car. Then, when I got my driver's license and got a job in '75, they let me drive the Rivi. - - WOW!! When my dad would drive it, there was no set speed limit in Nevada on the open highway. Instead, it was "safe and reasonable". Well, my dad had a thing about going over 100, but we frequently cruised in the 90's - right up to about 98. After I started driving it, I quickly learned it would top 130 (according to the speedo, which went to 140). So "speed runs" were a fairly common occurrance. Eventually, my dad decided I was being a bad boy and took the car away from me. And in another year, my younger sister was driving it. But after awhile, and after a mis-hap (she hit the edge of a manhole cover that was not completely "down" with the cross-member and bent the whole front end down), the car was pretty much permanently parked. Fortunately, my dad is the type who never gets rid of anything, so he still has that car under a tarp. He's 85 now, and is maybe realizing he can't do everything he was going to do "someday", including restoring that car and getting it back on the road. So in the last couple of years, he's asked me if I'd like to have it to restore, and finally I told him "yes". I hesitated, because the boattail is really my baby. I like them more than the '64, even though to the rest of the world, the '64 is far more a "classic" than the boattail. So I don't know when I'll ever get the time, money, and ambition to restore that thing, but I guess it's on the agenda. I've noticed TA Performance carries performance cams, headers, roller rockers, oversized valves, and dual carb manifolds for that engine, so I could really hop it up if I wanted. It was pretty hot stock, so I can only imagine what it would do with the performance mods. Nothing crazy like my salt flats boattail, but another 30 or so horsepower would really be nice. | |
| | | AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:37 am | |
| Thanks, Bill! Always great to read about the classic Rivieras and their engines. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
| | | rivparadise Fanatic
Name : Samuel Age : 52 Location : Niagara Co. Joined : 2007-06-10 Post Count : 381 Merit : 11
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:34 am | |
| We need some pictures of that as soon as possible! 63 is my second favorite year next to the 95-99 generation. Something about them just screams POWER! Looking forward to hearing more about your adventure. | |
| | | AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:37 am | |
| '65 was my favorite. When they hid the headlamps, it just made the car look so mean! _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
| | | Boattail Bill Fanatic
Name : Bill Age : 67 Location : Carson City, NV Joined : 2008-11-22 Post Count : 381 Merit : 4
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:10 am | |
| I don't have a digital camera yet (yeah, I'm a dinosaur - I admit it), but my girlfriend does. The car's in my old hometown at my folks' old house about 110 miles away from here. We have it on the agenda to get a picture of the "fleet" some day. Wow, I just realized - - if we got them all - including my dad's old '64, the girlfriend's '97, the other '97 I bought for my mom, and all my boattails, including the "project car", a '71 Rivi GS with the engine out, that would be quite a collection. Hmmm, let's see - - - that would be 7 in all!!!! | |
| | | ibmoses Aficionado
Name : Bert Location : North Alabama Joined : 2008-02-03 Post Count : 1701 Merit : 32
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:18 am | |
| How come this thread looks completely different than anything else on the board? Bert "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Author Message Boattail Bill Apprentice Age : 51 Joined : 22 Nov 2008 Posts : 87 First Name : Bill Location : Carson City, NV Subject: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Yesterday at 1:31 am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just cruising the forum and noticed there was nothing on the 425 Nailhead topic. - Figured that just wouldn't do!! So fortunately, I've got a little. Back in about '65, when I was a little tyke (maybe 8 or so), my dad bought a '64 Riviera from the bank on a repo deal. The car was only like one year old, so for our poor family, this was a big deal - an almost new, top-of-the-line Buick. Anyway, within a year or so, we were living out in the sticks, and not on a regular school bus route, so my mom would take us to school every day in the Rivi. I got to really love that car. Then, when I got my driver's license and got a job in '75, they let me drive the Rivi. - - WOW!! When my dad would drive it, there was no set speed limit in Nevada on the open highway. Instead, it was "safe and reasonable". Well, my dad had a thing about going over 100, but we frequently cruised in the 90's - right up to about 98. After I started driving it, I quickly learned it would top 130 (according to the speedo, which went to 140). So "speed runs" were a fairly common occurrance. Eventually, my dad decided I was being a bad boy and took the car away from me. And in another year, my younger sister was driving it. But after awhile, and after a mis-hap (she hit the edge of a manhole cover that was not completely "down" with the cross-member and bent the whole front end down), the car was pretty much permanently parked. Fortunately, my dad is the type who never gets rid of anything, so he still has that car under a tarp. He's 85 now, and is maybe realizing he can't do everything he was going to do "someday", including restoring that car and getting it back on the road. So in the last couple of years, he's asked me if I'd like to have it to restore, and finally I told him "yes". I hesitated, because the boattail is really my baby. I like them more than the '64, even though to the rest of the world, the '64 is far more a "classic" than the boattail. So I don't know when I'll ever get the time, money, and ambition to restore that thing, but I guess it's on the agenda. I've noticed TA Performance carries performance cams, headers, roller rockers, oversized valves, and dual carb manifolds for that engine, so I could really hop it up if I wanted. It was pretty hot stock, so I can only imagine what it would do with the performance mods. Nothing crazy like my salt flats boattail, but another 30 or so horsepower would really be nice. _________________ "World's Fastest Riviera" (182 mph so far) 1971 Boattail, full roll cage, 4-wheel coil-over suspension with 4-wheel 4-caliper disc brakes, Goodyear Eagle "Landspeed" tires (300 mph rated), Stroud parachute, full door net, etc, etc. AA Administrator Age : 31 Joined : 13 Jan 2007 Posts : 6955 First Name : Aaron Location : C-bus, Ohio Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Yesterday at 5:37 am | |
| | | jonly Enthusiast
Name : james Age : 51 Location : Springfield, IL Joined : 2007-04-18 Post Count : 235 Merit : 9
| | | | Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13 Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:05 pm | |
| jonly, What is hamb, other than an abbreviation for hamburger. Damn it, now I'm hungry. Rick | |
| | | Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3176 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:21 pm | |
| - Rickw wrote:
- jonly,
What is hamb, other than an abbreviation for hamburger. Damn it, now I'm hungry. Rick That's it, I'm having Salisbury Steak tonight! | |
| | | krazyfish Enthusiast
Name : Jerred Age : 34 Location : Kentucky Joined : 2009-02-20 Post Count : 136 Merit : 4
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:13 pm | |
| I am assuming they are talking about hokey ass message board. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/ | |
| | | Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3176 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:37 pm | |
| - AA wrote:
- '65 was my favorite. When they hid the headlamps, it just made the car look so mean!
When you see the '65, it just looks like it was designed for the clamshells in the first place... | |
| | | jonly Enthusiast
Name : james Age : 51 Location : Springfield, IL Joined : 2007-04-18 Post Count : 235 Merit : 9
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:56 pm | |
| I couldn't pass up the horseshoes on the side of the 63/64, and it's cheaper to hide the lamps than it is to put the shoes on. | |
| | | Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3176 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:32 am | |
| Yeah, those are cool too.
I just noticed something... With the big motor, didn't it come with the Super Turbine 400, with the switch-pitch converter? | |
| | | jonly Enthusiast
Name : james Age : 51 Location : Springfield, IL Joined : 2007-04-18 Post Count : 235 Merit : 9
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:04 am | |
| I'm building this thing like johnny cash's cadillac - one piece at a time. | |
| | | 54_nailhead Enthusiast
Name : Luke Age : 48 Location : Waconia, MN Joined : 2007-06-15 Post Count : 126 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:46 pm | |
| - Eldo wrote:
- Yeah, those are cool too.
I just noticed something... With the big motor, didn't it come with the Super Turbine 400, with the switch-pitch converter? I believe you are correct on that. I think '64 was the first year for that transmission and '63 Rivs would still have the Dynaflow transmission. | |
| | | jonly Enthusiast
Name : james Age : 51 Location : Springfield, IL Joined : 2007-04-18 Post Count : 235 Merit : 9
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:57 pm | |
| I'll remove the tranny nomenclature until I can confirm exactly what it is... | |
| | | Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3176 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:21 pm | |
| - 54_nailhead wrote:
- Eldo wrote:
- Yeah, those are cool too.
I just noticed something... With the big motor, didn't it come with the Super Turbine 400, with the switch-pitch converter? I believe you are correct on that. I think '64 was the first year for that transmission and '63 Rivs would still have the Dynaflow transmission. Thanks. I do know that in the big cars, it ran from '64 to '67 (wish I had one in my '69...) | |
| | | DocModisett Amateur
Name : Doc Modisett Age : 82 Location : Lawrenceburg Tn. Joined : 2010-04-30 Post Count : 35 Merit : 11
| Subject: Re: "My" first car - a '64 Riv with a 425 nailhead Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:19 am | |
| my 64 riv has the straight th400,,,, the 65's have the switch pitch th400,,,, | |
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