Knock-Off Headers (Pace Setter, Autochrome, Chinese, eBay, etc.)

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those are pacesetter knock off's.... don't get em''

Ok.. so, knock-offs of SLPs are fine, but knock-offs of knock-offs are bad? How do we know which Chinese-made copy is better than another?

Probably because regular pacesetters have their share of problems , and I can't picture knock offs being better than the original.

Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't Pacesetters knock-offs of SLPs? I didn't think of them as "original".

AA wrote:

Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't Pacesetters knock-offs of SLPs? I didn't think of them as "original".

pacesetter are their "own headers" they have smaller primaries than SLPS.... there are a few chinese knock off's of these OBX and some other lame chinese maker.... anywho! the XS headers are the route to go! they have bigger primaries and they come with a 3 inch down pipe... you do need to two of those FAT clamps for 12 dollars from ZZP or wherever.... but IMO XS dominates i have seen a few sets go in on GTPS and a GS and for the money i WILL be buying a set of these.........

Interesting. Thanks for the info. Hope those XS headers work out for you. Looking forward to seeing your installation.

Has any body on here installed the XS headers yet?
Also, do me a favor and no one bid on the set coming up for sale on EBay please. I put in the bid that's currently there for that set.
There are others to follow.
Thanks.

Rickw, what's your ebay username, and a link to the auction you are bidding on, please.

98riviera98 wrote:

AA wrote:

Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't Pacesetters knock-offs of SLPs? I didn't think of them as "original".

pacesetter are their "own headers" they have smaller primaries than SLPS.... there are a few chinese knock off's of these OBX and some other lame chinese maker.... anywho! the XS headers are the route to go! they have bigger primaries and they come with a 3 inch down pipe... you do need to two of those FAT clamps for 12 dollars from ZZP or wherever.... but IMO XS dominates i have seen a few sets go in on GTPS and a GS and for the money i WILL be buying a set of these.........

No, pacesetters have bigger primaries then the SLPs.

AA wrote:

Rickw, what's your ebay username, and a link to the auction you are bidding on, please.

HA HA Happy New year to you too.

Besides, you already have a NICE set of headers.

Lol, I'm serious. How are we supposed to know which auction to avoid bidding on?

OH, I thought you were kidding around.
Thanks,
Rick

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=110330981281

Haha... fooled you. Now I'm gonna bid!

Just kidding. No one bid on Rick's auction, please.

Thanks AA

they look nice. good luck getting them.

Hey, in one spot, they say mild steel tubing and another spot it says "STAINLESS STEEL 321 HIGH GRADE , YES NOT BURMESE CHEAP OBX GRADE HIGH GRADE STAINLESS STEEL"

So which is it? I get a little paranoid about poorly worded auctions, maybe it's just me.

Well, if everything goes according to plan I should be able to answer your question definitively in about a week.
But, from what I've heard others say, they are supposed to definitely be Stainless Steel. I emailed SSAutochrome over a month ago and they responded with SS.
We'll see.
Rick

Cool, can't wait to see 'em installed!

must.....bid......on......headers........

We've all been through the stainless steel debate with these knock-offs. The description always bothered me as well. I could never get myself to buy a set, I ended up going with a rear PEM and a front stainless powerlog with the ceramic coating. I just wanted something that gave me the least amount of fitment problems, plus I knew I was never going to go too far with my Riviera mods.

And that's a respectable position. Headers are overkill for most who buy them, imo. Not a total waste, but they really don't help that much until you are heavily modded. I could've waited on mine.

^^ Two good posts. A bit of a reigning in for those of us caught up in the header talk, and a reminder to plan your mods. Too easy to go out and just throw money at the car. We all work too hard for the cash to just spend it without a good plan.

But I still wanna see those babies installed on Rick's ride!

I'll be buying some soon Mid-February or so prolly

Travis and ur buying my Cam

palermocorey90 wrote:

Travis and ur buying my Cam

unless i find an XP before that for 175 or less

They are 321 SS tubing with a mild steel flange.