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PostSubject: engine help   engine help EmptySat Apr 04, 2009 9:47 am

I have a 95 riviera for about a week now and fell in love with it. The problem now is that motor is smoked. Just wondering what you guys though about rebiulding this one or just putting in a used motor. Or maybe switching to a series ll since the motor has to come out anyway. thanks for yuor help.
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PostSubject: Re: engine help   engine help EmptySat Apr 04, 2009 4:48 pm

Easiest will be to find a low mile used motor. They generally last forever, so pretty much anything that comes with a basic warranty should be fine. (there's a junkyard near us that warranties every motor for 90 days, so you can determine that it all works...)
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PostSubject: Re: engine help   engine help EmptySat Apr 04, 2009 6:56 pm

depends on how much you want to spend on fixing it up.
a series 2 motor would be your best approach if you plan on modding down the road. you would need a new pcm too. you may also need a transmission out of the series 2 car as well.
probably looking at $2000 for a used motor/trans/pcm package in decent shape.

or if money is tight you can get a used series 1 for pretty cheap.

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PostSubject: Re: engine help   engine help EmptySat Apr 04, 2009 9:52 pm

will any gm 3800 bolt up to my supercharger or do i need to find a supercharged engine to swap in
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PostSubject: Re: engine help   engine help EmptySat Apr 04, 2009 10:05 pm

the n/a has higher compression and different injectors than the /sc motor. and the some of the trans are HD for the s/c motor.

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PostSubject: Re: engine help   engine help EmptySat Apr 04, 2009 10:26 pm

ok i see .what if i was to use just the n/a block and put the heads in intake from my s/c motor?
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PostSubject: Re: engine help   engine help EmptySun Apr 05, 2009 7:37 am

Is your current motor supercharged (Series I) or N/A (Series II)? Hard parts from the SII engine won't bolt onto the SI engine.
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PostSubject: Re: engine help   engine help EmptySun Apr 05, 2009 9:03 am

boy this is turning out to be harder than i thought. im not shure which block i have ,but it is a supercharged motor now but that one is toast. can i tell which block a have in my car by the vin number?
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PostSubject: Re: engine help   engine help EmptySun Apr 05, 2009 11:35 am

I believe all L67 engines share the same cast iron block.

If it is the stock engine in a '95 Riviera, it uses the Series I SC 3.8L engine, which uses the L67 block.

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PostSubject: Re: engine help   engine help EmptySun Apr 05, 2009 7:20 pm

thanks for all your help guys, i guess ill know for sure when i pull the motor out and see it out in the open. i love this web site, its been so much help. i do so some things about cars but new to the s/c 3800 so your help is greatly needed. thanks guys
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PostSubject: Re: engine help   engine help EmptySun Apr 05, 2009 9:15 pm

Please add some info about your car to your signature under user preferences, and turn on signatures, so we don't have to ask what year/motor your car is in every question.

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