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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: cylinder heads Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:11 am | |
| my cylinder heads are back from shop tomorow. blown headgasket at the rear was the problem. i thought it best to have the heads gone over completly just in case. total bill with resurfacing $140 not bad. im thinking that i should paint the heads along with the cylinder covers a bright red. would that be too much? since the buick colors are red wht blue maybe a tri color scheme might work? cylinder heads ,red. valve cover, 1 ,wht, the other blue, too corny? any sugestions? | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: cylinder heads Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:51 am | |
| The old Buick Engine Red will make it look like a big block from the 70's!!!
Well, really it won't, it will still look like a FWD V6 from the 90's.
Oh well, anyhow I might like just the Red but do whatever you like. I have seen some nice valve cover painting, but don't worry too much about the rear head, nobody can see it. | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8687 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: cylinder heads Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:43 am | |
| YOu could go nuts and get aluminum covers:
http://www.3800pro.com/forum/cams-heads-valvetrain/5435-follow-up-3800-billet-rail-fabricated-valve-covers.html
Or ZZP's
Warning - be sure to get OE or NAPA valve cover gaskets for yourself - chatter on the boards complains about hte gaskets ZZP sends - although as inexpensive as gaskets are you'd think they would have switched to better by now.
And then there are these TIG welded ones froma garage in Des Moines - I don't see a groove for the gasket though, could be a problem:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3800-GM-FABRICATED-ALUMINUM-VALVE-COVERS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQhashZitem1d9a16b98QQitemZ7946202008QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
All that said, if it was mine I'd probably paint the heads and clean up the valve covers but not paint them. GM made metal valve covers for the RWD installations of the 3800 but I think the oil fill hole is in the wrong place among other problems.
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woggy Enthusiast
Name : Paul Age : 62 Location : Altoona, Florida (Somewhere in the ocala national forest) Joined : 2009-04-28 Post Count : 201 Merit : 7
| Subject: Re: cylinder heads Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:24 pm | |
| WHOA!! 400 bucks for a set of valve covers....A little steep dont ya think? | |
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Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13 Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
| Subject: Re: cylinder heads Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:38 pm | |
| 6061T6 billet aluminum isn't cheap to start with. Consider the size of the block of billet you have to start out with before CNC work to make them. Then the cost and time on a CNC machine. I can see $200.00 per valve cover being their cost to manufacture these. | |
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Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13 Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
| Subject: Re: cylinder heads Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:43 pm | |
| - robotennis61 wrote:
- my cylinder heads are back from shop tomorow. blown headgasket at the rear was the problem. i thought it best to have the heads gone over completly just in case. total bill with resurfacing $140 not bad.
How come so inexpensive. Have you got a brother in law in that machine shop or what.? Excellent price. A local shop in my neighborhood just finished a 3800, sent heads out for a valve job, their cost from the machine shop was close to $500.00. That was their cost, not your average civilian cost. I thought that was high but I don't know what the machine shop had to do or replace above and beyond the average valve job would consist of.
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8687 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: cylinder heads Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:56 pm | |
| You'd think GM would have steel or aluminum covers in the parts bin somewhere...
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oldsman105 Junkie
Name : Enrique Patino Age : 39 Location : Queens, New York City Joined : 2007-01-24 Post Count : 756 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: cylinder heads Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:15 pm | |
| For a series 1 you can run valve covers from a 3800 powered f-body. They have aluminum valve covers. | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: cylinder heads Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:21 pm | |
| i think im going red on the heads. i might leave the valve covers alone...ahh choices!.. well rick, the guy sed i didnt need a valve job? except for 1 of the heads being warped the valves were in good condition im a little confused,but if it aint broke why try to fix it? and i get to keep $200 in the pocket. honest guy | |
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Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13 Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
| Subject: Re: cylinder heads Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:32 pm | |
| Still an excellent price for disassembly, cleaning, inspect, resurfacing warped head, new valve seals and reassembly. Seems the labor alone would justify a higher price. But I wouldn't complain either. | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: cylinder heads Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:12 am | |
| yap. and all painted bright fire red! they look good. now waiting for new head bolts and sc and throttle body gaskets. and good to go!...man is it hard getting parts around here lately? sucks! | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8687 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: cylinder heads Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:50 am | |
| I suspect we will all be using more of monsterpartsonline.com
Albertj | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: cylinder heads Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:20 pm | |
| yeah. im thinking about painting the s/c too. might look good in red along with the heads and covers. as it is what i have painted looks tight! | |
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