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PostSubject: Removing Supercharger Belt   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptyWed Mar 26, 2008 10:24 pm

Im going to take off the supercharger belt.... i know its safe..... i hope,,,,,,Well i dont feel like taking off the engine mount.......... soo im just gonna take off the belt and tuck it behind the headlight and maybe zip tie it away from everything............. ill make a 0-60 test with the supercharger than one without twisted
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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptyWed Mar 26, 2008 10:29 pm

Why do you want to do this? Yes it is safe, the only real danger is probably your belt getting snagged and ripped to shreds... And it's not an accurate comparison to a NA 3800, which runs higher compression and no non-functional SC in the air path.
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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptyWed Mar 26, 2008 10:33 pm

When you get it off, work the belt into a part of the mount bracket so that it's not near the crank pulley. zip tie it up top - tightly.

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'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptyWed Mar 26, 2008 11:37 pm

AA wrote:
When you get it off, work the belt into a part of the mount bracket so that it's not near the crank pulley. zip tie it up top - tightly.

okie dokie...........
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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptyWed Mar 26, 2008 11:38 pm

1998 Riv wrote:
Why do you want to do this? Yes it is safe, the only real danger is probably your belt getting snagged and ripped to shreds... And it's not an accurate comparison to a NA 3800, which runs higher compression and no non-functional SC in the air path.
i want to do this because i want to see if i can beat my freinds 99 honda civic Vtec without the supercharger.......... and i will make sure the belt doesnt get ripped to shreds
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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptyThu Mar 27, 2008 12:22 am

Man, I don't know, it's kind of a dog w/o the SC belt on. I've been driving that way for a few weeks now. No WOT, but some hard acceleration. It's just night and day compared to being SC'd.
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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptyThu Mar 27, 2008 12:32 am

$1 he beats you... bad.

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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptyThu Mar 27, 2008 12:39 am

I'd be willing to bet more than that. These things are dogs without the supercharger. If you do run it like that though , maybe if you advance the hell out of your timing ( 93 octane +8.5:1 compression= a lot of room for advance) you have a small chance of keeping up. but most likely he'll pull like crazy.
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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptyThu Mar 27, 2008 12:40 am

TonySmooth89 wrote:
I'd be willing to bet more than that. These things are dogs without the supercharger. If you do run it like that though , maybe if you advance the hell out of your timing ( 93 octane +8.5:1 compression= a lot of room for advance) you have a small chance of keeping up. but most likely he'll pull like crazy.

i hear everyone say Oh i lost my belt theres NO power........... i wanna see how slow it is without the blower
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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptyThu Mar 27, 2008 2:00 am

No compression and rotor resistance = Honda pWnag3
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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptyThu Mar 27, 2008 2:41 am

The way I remember it, when you hit the gas with the belt off, it just stops accelerating about 50%. Pressing the pedal past that won't push the car any faster!

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptyThu Mar 27, 2008 3:30 pm

AA wrote:
The way I remember it, when you hit the gas with the belt off, it just stops accelerating about 50%. Pressing the pedal past that won't push the car any faster!

haha i drove my moms suburban today to put the 20's on........ cool

i think im nervous to do the belt......... i like boost twisted
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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptyThu Mar 27, 2008 5:38 pm

I remember about 3 weeks after I got my riv, I noticed the s/c belt was put on wrong, and was slowly walking off the pulley, which made a small slit in the belt. One day I had a couple of friends in the car, and I floored it spun the tires a good 20 feet, and slowed down, (which had caused the belt to come right off of the pulleys. Man, that was the most boring 10 minute drive to the mechanics shop. It was almost as slow as my first car, a 1993 Plymouth Sundance. No lie. Not to mention the dohc vtec makes nearly 200 hp, if that's the same engine i'm thinking of.
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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptyThu Mar 27, 2008 6:56 pm

lol, the VTEC in most late 90's Civics is only 127 HP but they're lightweight. The Civic Si ('99 I think) however has 170 HP. None of them are around 200 unless they're in the Prelude or something.
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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptyThu Mar 27, 2008 7:45 pm

Shintsu wrote:
lol, the VTEC in most late 90's Civics is only 127 HP but they're lightweight. The Civic Si ('99 I think) however has 170 HP. None of them are around 200 unless they're in the Prelude or something.

I said dohc vtec, which is exactly what's in a prelude. I know next to nothing about hondas.
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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptySat Jan 24, 2009 10:08 am

my friend had the 07 civic vtec and stock they pull like 194hp.
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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptySat Jan 24, 2009 10:21 am

1wickedninja wrote:
my friend had the 07 civic vtec and stock they pull like 194hp.

too bad the torque sucks... and the nature of a Vtec gives it a crappy powerband.. you can see where it switches to the high rpm cam:

http://image.automotive.com/f/features/6710874/0610_c+2007_honda_civic_si+dyno_chart.jpg

lets compare that to say... a supercharged 4.4 lc3:
http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/EngineShowcase/dynochart.jsp?engId=44LLC3Northerstar&engine=4.4L%20LC3%20Northstar&sku=17802896&engCat=rpo

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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptySat Jan 24, 2009 10:16 pm

lol then he straped a turbo on in and though it was faster than my monte. i showed him up there buy lets just say around 8 or 9 car lenghts lol. never raced him in the riv but i think i could take him. he was only pulling around 270hp at 12 psi. he totaled before i could race him in the riv!
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PostSubject: Re: Any danger on driving without SC belt on?   Any danger on driving without SC belt on? EmptySat Jan 24, 2009 11:08 pm

1wickedninja wrote:
he totaled before i could race him in the riv!
Damn ricers...they can't ever drive. This comes to mind: