| Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay | |
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J. Chris Davis Aficionado
Name : Chris Davis Age : 43 Location : Dixon, IL Joined : 2010-04-14 Post Count : 1008 Merit : 19
| Subject: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:38 pm | |
| http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.m748&item=170549245218&viewitem=&_trkparms=clkid%3D5130903869840474462 | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:29 pm | |
| just a warning - he calls it a Series II motor in the ad, the pictures confirm it's definitely the Series I. | |
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J. Chris Davis Aficionado
Name : Chris Davis Age : 43 Location : Dixon, IL Joined : 2010-04-14 Post Count : 1008 Merit : 19
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:31 pm | |
| I forgot that he did do that. | |
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Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3176 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:21 pm | |
| - deekster_caddy wrote:
- just a warning - he calls it a Series II motor in the ad, the pictures confirm it's definitely the Series I.
Not to mention the hold-down nut on the spare-tire cover, and the radio/climate-control... Other than being a '95 it's a sweet ride, though. (But he's outa' his mind on the price!) | |
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Jack the R Master
Joined : 2007-01-16 Post Count : 8072 Merit : 105
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:00 pm | |
| How high do you think it will go? Up to 8,700 ATM with 3 days left.
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DEMonte1997 Aficionado
Name : Rick Age : 46 Location : CT Joined : 2009-03-03 Post Count : 1429 Merit : 37
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:01 pm | |
| For a 95' I'd want that black interior or a better color than light gray. And the exterior... is that purple or something? :/ | |
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Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3176 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:03 pm | |
| - Jack the R wrote:
- How high do you think it will go? Up to 8,700 ATM with 3 days left.
Wow, I didn't realized that someone had actually BID that high! I just saw the "reserve not met" message... | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8687 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:49 pm | |
| that thing cost them almost $5.00/mile for the use they got - at 13.5 asking price, the seller is taking a nasty bath.
Albertj
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sburch23 Addict
Name : Scott Location : Roswell, GA Joined : 2007-04-02 Post Count : 547 Merit : 14
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:38 pm | |
| $5.00 a mile. WOW! That is the nature of depreciation. It is a non-cash expense. You only really incur that cost when you sell the item.
That got me to thinking about my cars cost per mile and I came up with $0.2056/mile for everything. Gas has been about $0.11/mile of that.
$13,500 seems pretty outrageous for a 16 year old car. They may get it. Anything comparable would cost 3 to 5 times as much.
Has anyone else calculated the cost/mile of their Rivs?
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8687 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:57 am | |
| - sburch23 wrote:
- $5.00 a mile. WOW! That is the nature of depreciation. It is a non-cash expense. You only really incur that cost when you sell the item.
That got me to thinking about my cars cost per mile and I came up with $0.2056/mile for everything. Gas has been about $0.11/mile of that.
$13,500 seems pretty outrageous for a 16 year old car. They may get it. Anything comparable would cost 3 to 5 times as much.
Has anyone else calculated the cost/mile of their Rivs?
Anything comparable will cost more or less depending on how you look at it. A new comparable costs more if you think of the cash price of buying a new comparable, such as the Cadillac CTS (who knew GM would get the Catera straightented out?). Cateras list (acc to Motor Trend) around $39,000. A new comparable costs less if you plan to use it. The "sweet spot" is probably to buy one after it takes the big depreciation hit (2 or 3 y.o. off a lease probably) and in turn sell it in 2-3 years while there is still a strong market, when it's say 4-5 y.o. And in that part of the "less" is in the practical aspects of owning and running the car. Although that low mileage Riv costs less in initial cash outlay, the maintenance and repair uncertainties can endanger its use as a daily driver - if for instance you live in the northeast in an area that uses corrosive road salt and while driving along one sunny summer day discover that your front subframe has crapped out. Getting parts for the Riv can be, as some of the newer list members are learning, an (ahem) interesting exercise. Some are common GM parts and relatively cheap. Some are made of Unobtainium. Result is that the apparent cash cost is less but the risk-adjusted cost is such that if you're in the rust belt and have not taken precautions this (or any other older car) is a rotten risk as a daily driver. If something big goes wrong you are hossed; don't have that risk with a newer car. I am thinking that the major reason someone might buy a low mileage Riviera is if they think it can be sold to someone else later for more. Will it appreciate 6% or 10% or whatever per year, is the question. If it's just that you wanted a Riv to drive, probably the thing to do is buy one as inexpensively as you can, with service records, and refurbish it. Your further thoughts? Albertj | |
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florence_x Enthusiast
Name : Florence Age : 38 Location : New York City Joined : 2008-01-14 Post Count : 224 Merit : 21
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:19 pm | |
| That guy is certainly a bit over-the-top on the price, although she does look to be in great condition & has very low mileage.
I am a fan of the gold side emblem, not so much the wood pattern dash panels (ehhh - it reminds me too much of a 1980's station wagon or a new PT Cruiser), the gray interior is OK, not too big of a fan there either.
1995's<3 I need to get me another. | |
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florence_x Enthusiast
Name : Florence Age : 38 Location : New York City Joined : 2008-01-14 Post Count : 224 Merit : 21
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:22 pm | |
| And another...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1996-Buick-Riviera-Gold-Pkg-Supercharged-/330482158059?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4cf24589eb
Price is high, again. I cannot say I'm a fan of those wheels at ALL. | |
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Jack the R Master
Joined : 2007-01-16 Post Count : 8072 Merit : 105
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:35 pm | |
| - florence_x wrote:
- And another...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1996-Buick-Riviera-Gold-Pkg-Supercharged-/330482158059?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4cf24589eb
Price is high, again. I cannot say I'm a fan of those wheels at ALL. That's worse than the first one 3X as many miles and they want another grand for it. We ought to keep an eye on these sales and see if anyone actually buys them. Maybe the Riv will become collectible after all? BTW my Riv has those rims and I think they look good for 16's. They don't contrast as much with silver paint. They look a little odd in those pics but I've seen them on a white Riv in person and they didn't look bad. The grey plastic cladding looked awful on white, but the rims were o.k. | |
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BMD Aficionado
Name : BMD Location : Canada Joined : 2009-04-28 Post Count : 1161 Merit : 36
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:30 pm | |
| Wow, this is interesting, if these cars go high, it really says alot about the Riv's value. | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:02 pm | |
| that 95 is one clean car. 3 things bother me though. 1) the spark plug wires at the boot look cooked. 2) the exhaust has been painted. 3) the owner is nuts. | |
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sburch23 Addict
Name : Scott Location : Roswell, GA Joined : 2007-04-02 Post Count : 547 Merit : 14
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:58 pm | |
| I think that they are asking too much. I couple of years ago I saw a red 99 in Birmingham that only had about 40k miles. They ended up selling it for $9,000. I do not think anyone will bid on these. They may eventually sell for $9k. I like the 96 better due the color and the fact that it is Series II. | |
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Abaddon Expert
Name : Scott Location : Macomb, Michigan Joined : 2010-02-24 Post Count : 4316 Merit : 185
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:56 pm | |
| I'd be willing to bet that car is going to have some serious issues in the near future. Sitting for that long is not good for the car. | |
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Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3176 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:42 am | |
| - florence_x wrote:
- And another...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1996-Buick-Riviera-Gold-Pkg-Supercharged-/330482158059?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4cf24589eb Danger Will Robinson, Danger!! There's an aftermarket siren in the RF corner of the engine compartment... | |
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Jack the R Master
Joined : 2007-01-16 Post Count : 8072 Merit : 105
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:14 am | |
| I see a radiator hose. Don't see anything on the other right - but I don't know what I'm looking for either.
You think it's been used as an unmarked patrol car? | |
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Sweepspear Fanatic
Name : Dale Age : 63 Location : Minneapolis, MN Joined : 2008-11-04 Post Count : 386 Merit : 11
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:11 am | |
| - Eldo wrote:
Danger Will Robinson, Danger!! There's an aftermarket siren in the RF corner of the engine compartment... Maybe an aftermarket alarm? An Ahooga horn? | |
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Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3176 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:17 am | |
| - Sweepspear wrote:
- Eldo wrote:
Danger Will Robinson, Danger!! There's an aftermarket siren in the RF corner of the engine compartment... Maybe an aftermarket alarm? An Ahooga horn?
Well yeah... that's what I was thinkin'. Messing with the wires... They mounted that siren right where I mounted my 3rd horn. | |
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Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13 Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:59 am | |
| The 3'rd horn, how is that working out for you.?????
Where did you rob that horn from anyway, was it a caddy horn or what.?????? | |
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Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3176 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: Here's a low mileage Riv for sale on ebay Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:04 am | |
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