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sqrivi Fanatic
Name : scott Location : madison, al Joined : 2008-03-15 Post Count : 375 Merit : 52
| Subject: another project Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:59 pm | |
| Here is a project that has been taking up most of my extra time. This speaker has had several revisions, but this is the final design. This is a very high-end open baffle "hybrid" two-way design. Open baffle part is an 8" fullrange driver, there is also a 12" sub in a sealed down firing cabinet. The sonic characteristics of this design, after alot of experimenting and modeling, is incredible. The sound stage is massive. Much wider and deeper than the speakers are placed. The stage is also very focused and dimensional. It has layered depth like very few systems I have ever heard. These speakers make the room itself disappear. I have heard many people describe a speakers sound by saying "it brings the performance into your room". The difference with these speakers is it sounds more like taking you to the performance. If the venue is huge then the room sounds huge. If the recording is in a small studio, then the room sounds small. Also if you close your eyes you couldn't point out the speakers locations if you had to. After all that is the point, for all the gear to disappear and leave only the music. I'm sorry to ramble on, but I am extremely excited about this project. Here is a 3D model of the finished product. Onto the construction. A pile of CNC cut parts to be assembled. First the sub. It is made up of 3/4"MDF layers. The wall thickness of the cabinet ranges from 1"-3 1/2" thick. Very STOUT. Now for gluing, stacking, and clamping...... Here is the sub cabinet.....minus the two layers that will make up the top. Same process for the tower. Here is one sub and one tower glued together and ready for sanding then fiberglass. Here with the insert in place. The insert will eventually have an exotic veneer applied. Now for the sanding...... And some fiberglass. Next is some filler to make sure these are smoooooooth. After all they are going to be painted a high gloss black. Starting to get a flat surface. Here is the fit on the insert. And the sub insert. Here is a close-up shot of the Bosse veneers grain. Applying the veneer. tower..... sub...... Here are the pieces trimmed and ready for a lot of clear to get a mirror finish. Finally attached the base for the tower. Here is the base for the sub cabinet. It has an extra "ring" to allow more room for the sub to load on the floor. Both the sub and the tower have spikes as well. Here is one sub/tower ready for paint. The other soon to follow. Notice the sub doesn't contact the tower anywhere. This is to prevent any vibration that the sub cabinet might have from being transmitted to the tower. | |
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crlombardi69 Enthusiast
Name : Chris L Age : 56 Location : Metro/Detroit area Joined : 2009-12-31 Post Count : 207 Merit : 5
| Subject: Re: another project Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:24 pm | |
| That is some serious audio design and manufacturing there. I'm very intrigued by the design and construction of those units. Are you an employee or owner of this company? Either way I'm blown away by them! | |
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Jack the R Master
Joined : 2007-01-16 Post Count : 8074 Merit : 105
| Subject: Re: another project Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:29 pm | |
| Daaaaamn dude!
Where are you going with this? Trying to get it manufactured? Not sure posting it on the internet is a good idea. I'm on an RC forum, and there's been a couple times where a guy has come up with a cool new idea, only to see the Chinese nab it and have it in production a few months later. Bad people are watching. | |
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sqrivi Fanatic
Name : scott Location : madison, al Joined : 2008-03-15 Post Count : 375 Merit : 52
| Subject: Re: another project Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:04 pm | |
| It would be difficult to copy. Angles, dimensions, driver mods, x-over design and components are all critical with this design. You can't just slap any fullrange with any sub using whatever xover is laying around and get positive results. We are already on the path of production though. This is just the first "finished" proof of concept and finish sample. Once everything is in place I will spill the beans on the details. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: another project Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:45 pm | |
| Nice work. Crossover ~220Hz? _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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turtleman Expert
Name : Codith Age : 37 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
| Subject: Re: another project Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:33 pm | |
| This is f**king awesome - wow | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: another project Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:53 pm | |
| Wow! I am speechless. the amount of work that i see is mind bending.I hope you have a bunch of little helpers... | |
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IBx1 Expert
Name : ILAN Age : 33 Location : College Station, TX Joined : 2007-12-30 Post Count : 4304 Merit : 69
| Subject: Re: another project Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:19 am | |
| Holy shit dude, you must be a sound engineer or something! From your description of the performance, these look as good as they sound! | |
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Hometown Hero Junkie
Name : Klix Age : 46 Location : Barrhead, Alberta Canada Joined : 2009-11-18 Post Count : 807 Merit : 16
| Subject: Re: another project Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:22 pm | |
| I think I just came! | |
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BMD Aficionado
Name : BMD Location : Canada Joined : 2009-04-28 Post Count : 1161 Merit : 36
| Subject: Re: another project Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:55 pm | |
| Fantastic work scott, you are obviously a very talented guy. Your creations are beautiful, can't wait to see the interior of the Riv! | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8688 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: another project Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:49 pm | |
| Very nice
May I ask how you did the math modeling of the speaker performance, how you decided how tall to make the tubes, and how you decided on MDF versus say a hybrid stack of alternatign MDF/homasote layers?
Thanks
Albertj
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sqrivi Fanatic
Name : scott Location : madison, al Joined : 2008-03-15 Post Count : 375 Merit : 52
| Subject: Re: another project Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:37 am | |
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stan Expert
Joined : 2007-07-01 Post Count : 2558 Merit : 12
| Subject: Re: another project Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:47 pm | |
| ,,,and this is how everything on this planet should be designed.With lots of thought and passion. Well done. | |
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sqrivi Fanatic
Name : scott Location : madison, al Joined : 2008-03-15 Post Count : 375 Merit : 52
| Subject: Re: another project Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:06 am | |
| well, it's been a while but I will be delivering these to the painter this week. We are going to do some samples first to make sure of the colors and finish. I think I have decided to go mirror high gloss finish on the wood inserts and black with a satin finish on everything else. I will post more pics as things progress. | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: another project Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:32 am | |
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stan Expert
Joined : 2007-07-01 Post Count : 2558 Merit : 12
| Subject: Re: another project Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:53 pm | |
| scott,that's it,i am sending you tomorrow my dash to fiberglass it and look just like that picture,like a piano.I love it.Seriously bro,if a dashboard gets a few layers of fiberglass probably will stay and look pro. Awesome work! | |
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sburch23 Addict
Name : Scott Location : Roswell, GA Joined : 2007-04-02 Post Count : 547 Merit : 14
| Subject: Re: another project Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:36 pm | |
| I would think that the "open" design of the full range would make it very efficient compared to a sealed box. Is that correct. | |
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sqrivi Fanatic
Name : scott Location : madison, al Joined : 2008-03-15 Post Count : 375 Merit : 52
| Subject: Re: another project Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:17 am | |
| Yes. This set up is very efficient and dynamic. Most or our testing was done on a 25 watt per channel amplifier and that was plenty of power to make it uncomfortably loud.
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sqrivi Fanatic
Name : scott Location : madison, al Joined : 2008-03-15 Post Count : 375 Merit : 52
| Subject: Re: another project Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:32 am | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: another project Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:59 am | |
| Sqrivi my man,you got some interesting stuff going on over there! | |
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sqrivi Fanatic
Name : scott Location : madison, al Joined : 2008-03-15 Post Count : 375 Merit : 52
| Subject: Re: another project Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:02 pm | |
| I know its been a bit, but the parts are finally being painted. I should have them back in a week or two. I'll post pics of the paint progress. | |
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ghpcnm Aficionado
Name : Dave Age : 72 Location : FLORIDA / The Stand Your Ground State Joined : 2011-02-21 Post Count : 2044 Merit : 23
| Subject: Re: another project Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:26 pm | |
| - sqrivi wrote:
- I know its been a bit, but the parts are finally being painted. I should have them back in a week or two. I'll post pics of the paint progress.
You mean to tell me you don't paint ?!?!? Damn, I thought you could do might near anything !!! | |
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sqrivi Fanatic
Name : scott Location : madison, al Joined : 2008-03-15 Post Count : 375 Merit : 52
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sqrivi Fanatic
Name : scott Location : madison, al Joined : 2008-03-15 Post Count : 375 Merit : 52
| Subject: Re: another project Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:34 pm | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: another project Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:02 pm | |
| Those caps and coils are purdy. Surprised you're not using active filtering and separate channels for each driver. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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