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NO 4 EVR Addict
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Name : Troy Age : 38 Location : Sylvania, OH (Toledo) Joined : 2007-01-26 Post Count : 645 Merit : 1
![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Ignition Coil Packs Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:05 pm | |
| Coil pack replacement is easy right? | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
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Name : Matthew Age : 37 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
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| very easy, they are right on top. _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily ![Ignition Coil Packs Dsc_0110](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/11/09/01/06/dsc_0110.jpg) | |
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jax95riv Aficionado
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Name : Jack Age : 62 Location : Oklahoma City Joined : 2007-01-14 Post Count : 1062 Merit : 6
![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:12 pm | |
| - NO 4 EVR wrote:
- Coil pack replacement is easy right?
Eww...Good question. Here's another...Should the coil pack be replaced after so long? If you have 100k+ and have never replaced it, Is it just bad when it's out, or should it be a time change thingy? (you know this is going to get moved...don't cha?!:roll: ) | |
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98riv Moderator
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| I would only replace it if you have a problem. _________________ 1998 Supercharged Riviera - Custom CAI, Alpine spx-13ref, Infinity 6x9's, Alpine 4 Channel Amp, Kicker KX3, Silverstars, STB, Hawk Brake Pads, Monroe Air Shocks, KYB GR2
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Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18448 Merit : 252
![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:55 pm | |
| ![agree](/users/3215/30/10/37/smiles/sotr_agr.gif) They aren't exactly cheap, either. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ ![frown](/users/3215/30/10/37/smiles/icon_sad.gif) | |
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SoCal Riv Enthusiast
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![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:11 pm | |
| So what is the least expensive price members have found for a coil pack? | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
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Name : Matthew Age : 37 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:18 pm | |
| junk yard ones are cheap ![happy](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png) autozone has them for $24 each, but the dealer will have the best ones IMO, since mine are still stock at 125k miles. they have a good reputaion ![wink](/users/3215/30/10/37/smiles/icon_win.gif) _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily ![Ignition Coil Packs Dsc_0110](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/11/09/01/06/dsc_0110.jpg) | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:21 pm | |
| What makes you think you need to replace a coil pack?
I've seen bad plugs or wires mislead techs to replacing unneeded coil packs. They rarely fail. | |
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Name : Troy Age : 38 Location : Sylvania, OH (Toledo) Joined : 2007-01-26 Post Count : 645 Merit : 1
![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:44 pm | |
| Number 2 blew, which leads me to believe that 1 and 3 COULD go any time now. My roommate found some online for 54 bones I believe.
I know they are on top but I wasnt sure if things would fly out at me like springs or something. For some reason I get the idea there is loose parts under it. | |
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Location : Suncoast Joined : 2007-01-27 Post Count : 167 Merit : 5
![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:05 pm | |
| The Coil packs in my 95 lasted 7.5 years and 135K miles. The part number for the 95/ L36 Coil Assembly is 10472401. GMpartsdirect.com sells them for $33 each. The dealer installed mine and they are covered by the GM Goodwrench Limited Lifetime Warranty. | |
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NO 4 EVR Addict
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Name : Troy Age : 38 Location : Sylvania, OH (Toledo) Joined : 2007-01-26 Post Count : 645 Merit : 1
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| Thanks for the info lionfish | |
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Name : Codith Age : 36 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: ignition coils Wed May 02, 2007 8:11 pm | |
| anyone on here using high output coil packs? If so or if not even, which are better: MSD or ACCEL?
MSD http://www.msdignition.com/coil_blaster_9_8224.htm ACCEL http://www.accel-ignition.com/ProductDetails.aspx?brandId=3&productID=8382910&majID=545&minID=5451&selection=3&minselection=0 | |
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Name : Enrique Patino Age : 39 Location : Queens, New York City Joined : 2007-01-24 Post Count : 756 Merit : 10
![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs Wed May 02, 2007 10:26 pm | |
| stock L67 coils have the same output as MSD or ACCEL. #800 cars in the 11s still use stock igntion. No need to upgrade. | |
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Name : Troy Age : 38 Location : Sylvania, OH (Toledo) Joined : 2007-01-26 Post Count : 645 Merit : 1
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Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18448 Merit : 252
![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs Wed May 02, 2007 10:36 pm | |
| GM coils do put out some really hot spark. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ ![frown](/users/3215/30/10/37/smiles/icon_sad.gif) | |
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turtleman Expert
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Name : Codith Age : 36 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs Wed May 02, 2007 10:41 pm | |
| - oldsman105 wrote:
- stock L67 coils have the same output as MSD or ACCEL. #800 cars in the 11s still use stock igntion. No need to upgrade.
I beg to differ. 30k volts and 45k volts are not the same output. but i understand your point and aa's that the stock coils are sufficient. tell me if this just sounds retarded but i figured a higher output coil would allow use of much colder (4 ranges or so) spark plugs in everyday driving and racing without any fouling or incomplete burns | |
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Name : Enrique Patino Age : 39 Location : Queens, New York City Joined : 2007-01-24 Post Count : 756 Merit : 10
![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs Wed May 02, 2007 10:46 pm | |
| where did you get the 30k - 45 k specs from?
Most of the fastest cars have stock ignitions. there are better ways to spend $120.00 | |
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Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18448 Merit : 252
![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs Thu May 03, 2007 8:48 am | |
| The error in reasoning that higher ignition voltage will allow you to run colder plugs is: you assume higher voltage has something to do electrode temperature, which it does not. The temp of the plug has more to do with cylinder temps, resulting from a combination of factors (not spark). Even if higher voltages did create extra heat in the plug, going cooler would only bring you back to where you started, so no gains to be had. Read our FAQ on plugs: https://rivperformance.editboard.com/Supercharged-3800-Tech-c2/Series-II-FAQ-f19/Which-spark-plugs-should-I-use-t26-0.htmThe biggest difference with aftermarket coils is the color of the housing. You can easily paint the OEM cases red or yellow to get the same effect. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ ![frown](/users/3215/30/10/37/smiles/icon_sad.gif) | |
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![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: bad parts Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:48 pm | |
| Just putting it out there...
The high performance DIS ignition coils that ACCEL makes, in addition to having no measurable benefit, are a very poor product as I have experienced in the past few months. I got the three and installed them and in a about a week, two of them just quit almost at the same time while I was driving the car. I exchanged the two and got about another two or three months out of them before one failed again. (I was 40 miles away from a good coil so that sucked - one way to really test your cats ability to neutralize hydrocarbons)
In addition to the obvious failure, one or more of them had apparently been the cause for a less easy to point out WOT, high rpm misfire condition for a couple weeks before the one failed altogether. If it hadn't failed, I would still be scratching my head at the condition today that I suspected the cat. of causing.
Thankfully, I didn't pay for them so I'll just consider it an inconvenient product trial.
long story short, don't invest in these coils. They do nothing but cause headaches. I should clarify that I have no experience with the coils that MSD make so I cannot testify that those are an equally poor product. But we don't sell those at my work so I can't test them. | |
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Name : Dave Age : 63 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:47 pm | |
| Sorry for your troubles with those coils. Most of what I've read indicates that the OEM coils perform as well as any aftermarket parts. I went with OEM coils this summer, and kept my originals as backups. | |
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Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18448 Merit : 252
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| I hear more about aftermarket coils failing than OEM. I've never had a problem with my originals. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ ![frown](/users/3215/30/10/37/smiles/icon_sad.gif) | |
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Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
![Ignition Coil Packs Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:44 pm | |
| I used to work at a speed shop. Accel ignition parts definitely had a failure rate higher than normal, and I had a few bad experiences personally. I never have problems with MSD stuff. | |
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Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18448 Merit : 252
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| Somewhere I thought I read that MSD used the same internal parts as OEM, or vice-versa. So you're paying more for the red plastic, basically. Anyone know about this for sure? _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ ![frown](/users/3215/30/10/37/smiles/icon_sad.gif) | |
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| My coils haven't gone bad yet but the posts are very corroded. I plan on changing them out today. I have heard that the aftermarket coils (MSD, Accel, etc...) are made for the 3800 normally asperated engines. OEM are the only good replacement for SC applications from everything I've heard... | |
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Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18448 Merit : 252
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| Have the coil posts always been corroded, or is this something that you see happening over time? _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ ![frown](/users/3215/30/10/37/smiles/icon_sad.gif) | |
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