Name : Chris Age : 43 Location : Port St. Lucie, FL Joined : 2007-03-16Post Count : 48 Merit : 1
Subject: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Mon May 02, 2011 5:45 pm
What's up people?! I haven't posted in years! I joined back maybe 4 or so years ago but got caught up in life and bills. Finally starting to fix up my Rivi again. Went back and forth whether to trade in and get a new car but I figure I can put into the car what i'd spend in car payments each month of repairs/mods and when money gets tight, just STOP....can't do that with car payments. The main problem on my car is the terrible paint damage! ($$$) Anyhow,
Looking for an exhaust set-up that (a.) won't drone and (b.) won't sound like that 1980's Pontiac raspy crap at higher RPM's. I own a 97' Buick Riviera L67. I've found that it's best to keep the resonator in place and I think I'll keep that stock cat as well since I've read people regretted it. I plan to do the ...3 in. downpipe thing and delete the restrictive bend but as for mufflers? The only thing I heard online that sounded good was Hooker Maxflows. I'm looking for low rumble and as little rasp as possible. Lets say I have a set-up like that and then add headers.. how much will it effect the sound output? What do you guys think? Thanks!
-CeeKay
Karma Aficionado
Name : Andrew Age : 40 Location : Ontario, Canada Joined : 2008-01-14Post Count : 1949 Merit : 123
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Mon May 02, 2011 6:21 pm
"good" is very relative. But if you want a good sound, amazing flow, and no drone. Try the Dynomax VT's. Best sounding muffler for the 3800 IMO, more people just need to try it to get it to catch on. IT really tames the 3800's inherent rasp and makes something out of it.
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31Post Count : 8687 Merit : 181
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Mon May 02, 2011 7:19 pm
I think a downpipe change unless you are also modding the engine isn't productive.
I think you are right about the Maxflows.
If you really want a stealth system get the whole system for a 2004 Park Ave Ultra (with the stainless tips) from a GM Dealer. Have to find one that will cut you a break on the price. It could come in at about $450 - $500. The mufflers are huge and the system's tuned to get rid of that flat spot at ~2250 RPM.
Albertj
DEMonte1997 Aficionado
Name : Rick Age : 46 Location : CT Joined : 2009-03-03Post Count : 1429 Merit : 37
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Mon May 02, 2011 9:09 pm
I'd just keep the stock exhaust and throw headers on there. Should give you a little growl but the resonator and mufflers on the stock exhaust should quiet things done enough.
flyineagle96 Junkie
Name : James E Age : 55 Location : Dalton,Mass Joined : 2009-12-21Post Count : 915 Merit : 23
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Mon May 02, 2011 9:28 pm
Magnaflow!!! The way to go....................
CeeKay Amateur
Name : Chris Age : 43 Location : Port St. Lucie, FL Joined : 2007-03-16Post Count : 48 Merit : 1
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Tue May 03, 2011 5:59 pm
Thanks for the replies everyone. I don't want it that quiet but I basically would like the stock sound... only slightly louder..without the rasp. does anyone know the loudness difference between the dynomax vt's and the hooker maxflows. It would be nice to have the highest flow possible while keeping sound just slightly louder than stock. This really impressed me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHnK887DUT0 but since that's another car and set up, no promises mine would sound that way. Thanks again everyone for the suggestions.
turtleman Expert
Name : Codith Age : 37 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Tue May 03, 2011 6:44 pm
CeeKay wrote:
This really impressed me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHnK887DUT0
Yeah that has a turbo which changes things drastically.
What are you mod plans?
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Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Tue May 03, 2011 9:31 pm
Here's a clip of my Riv with headers installed w/ stock from cat-back (cat deleted). With this set-up, dyno measured 300 crank HP and 13.9 sec 1/4 mile.
'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles ^^^ SOLD ^^^
DEMonte1997 Aficionado
Name : Rick Age : 46 Location : CT Joined : 2009-03-03Post Count : 1429 Merit : 37
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Wed May 04, 2011 1:33 am
^^ That's exactly the same exhaust I want. Sounds good.
97 park ave Addict
Name : Tyler Age : 34 Location : MN Joined : 2009-03-06Post Count : 669 Merit : 21
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Wed May 04, 2011 10:49 am
I personally like mine, theres no rasp except very little at high RPM. This video doesnt really do it justice as the car was still a bit cold at the time of the video. It sounds really nice a operating temp, here ya go:
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Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Wed May 04, 2011 3:37 pm
97 park ave wrote:
I personally like mine rasp
Sounds like you're missing some exhaust parts......
flyineagle96 Junkie
Name : James E Age : 55 Location : Dalton,Mass Joined : 2009-12-21Post Count : 915 Merit : 23
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Wed May 04, 2011 4:00 pm
Go to the showroom,want to here all your back sides and listen to the many different setups. You mite find your sound there!!!
97 park ave Addict
Name : Tyler Age : 34 Location : MN Joined : 2009-03-06Post Count : 669 Merit : 21
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Thu May 05, 2011 11:31 am
Northeast wrote:
97 park ave wrote:
I personally like mine rasp
Sounds like you're missing some exhaust parts......
WTF are you talking about, try putting some headphones on. Sounds like youre missing some decent speakers and a brain jackass, lets hear your POS.
CeeKay Amateur
Name : Chris Age : 43 Location : Port St. Lucie, FL Joined : 2007-03-16Post Count : 48 Merit : 1
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Fri May 06, 2011 2:24 am
Thanks to all for your input. I will consider what each of you said and will listen to each when I have time. I work overnight, graveyard shift and we don't have have flash installed on this PC so I hasvn't been able to listen to the clips yet... and so worn out when i get home.. ugh.. Anyhow, It's good to know most of you have experimented with different set-ups. Is there anything NOT to do like remove the resonator? I heard about putting a glasspack muffler in it's place. Good or bad idea?
97 park ave Addict
Name : Tyler Age : 34 Location : MN Joined : 2009-03-06Post Count : 669 Merit : 21
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Fri May 06, 2011 9:24 am
I have no resonator with glasspacks for muffs
When you get around to listening i would recommend using headphones, i find this gives the most accurate perception of how the an exhaust sounds in person.
DEMonte1997 Aficionado
Name : Rick Age : 46 Location : CT Joined : 2009-03-03Post Count : 1429 Merit : 37
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Sun May 08, 2011 5:57 pm
If you really want mufflers for these cars, I'd go with Dynomax Ultraflos. They have a very deep sound at idle and low rpms but they muffle a lot of noise in upper rpms. My Regal has that with a Magnaflow cat and 18" Dynomax bullet resonator and it sounds fantastic (or at least as good as these cars can sound with exhaust).
Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Sun May 08, 2011 6:26 pm
Got a sound clip Rick?
_________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily
DEMonte1997 Aficionado
Name : Rick Age : 46 Location : CT Joined : 2009-03-03Post Count : 1429 Merit : 37
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Sun May 08, 2011 7:54 pm
I've been wanting to get one forever. Don't have a decent camera for it. Maybe I can find someone nearby who can get one.
Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
Subject: Re: Possible to have a "GOOD" sounding exhaust?? Sun May 08, 2011 8:12 pm
cell phone with recorder and computer mic?
_________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily
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