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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyThu Apr 11, 2013 3:46 pm

Wow! Lookin Good! I really like pictures 6 and 9 from the bottom up!
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyThu Apr 11, 2013 3:58 pm

VERY nice! How do you like the ride?

Please keep high-res images handy for calendar submission.

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyThu Apr 11, 2013 4:02 pm

Looks great man. I love spokes on the Riv, they really do fit the car.

I wish mine was black sad
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyThu Apr 11, 2013 4:42 pm

Rotors and F bodies comin up soon, right? Looks sweet!
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyThu Apr 11, 2013 4:50 pm

Ohhh yes......just let us know if the shimmy is gone between 65 & 70 mph.
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyThu Apr 11, 2013 4:58 pm

Bet you the farm the shimmy's gone.

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyThu Apr 11, 2013 5:01 pm

Haha...yet to find out, we still don't know for sure. Have it in Rivs,Auroras,Park Aves....
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyThu Apr 11, 2013 5:11 pm

Looks perfect! I flirted for ages about buying those very rims. Then I opted for a coil-over conversion.

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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyThu Apr 11, 2013 5:55 pm

They look AWSOME! Best looking wheels I've seen on a Riv!
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyThu Apr 11, 2013 6:39 pm

Wow thanks a ton everyone! I'm usually pretty decent at designing and whatnot, and as soon as I installed these I KNEW I had made the right choice in style and tire size. The 5 spokes I picked out just would not have 'worked' from a styling perspective.

I took dad for a short ride - only about 6 miles or so. The short trip consisted of every type of road you can imagine. Bumpy, straight, fast curves, and highway. These tires took every situation and threw it out the window - the car rides SO MUCH BETTER and don't even get me started on handling. Some of the curves were taken so easily I would barely know we were turning if I wasn't the one driving. I'm extremely impressed with the setup, as simple as it is. It's weird - the ride is firmer, but less harsh. Does that make any sense?

Anyway, I'll be going a few places between tomorrow night and Saturday and I'll report back. Hopefully I can get more pictures in the sun too!

I don't know about F-body brakes yet, but I do know I still want to get Addco sway bars. Might be a month or two for that.

I wish I had somewhere to go! I want to drive this thing forever now!
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyThu Apr 11, 2013 7:19 pm

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the ride is firmer, but less harsh. Does that make any sense?
It makes really good sense. I have a similar experience each spring when I put on the 18"s with 45 profile tires (put them on 2 days ago). A lower profile tire means there's less air cushion between the suspension and the road. It feels more firm because the suspension is now doing a larger % of the work, rather than the 60 profile OEM tires absorbing so much. You are going to feel more of the finer details of the road through the car because there's less air cushion. Also lower profile tires tend to have stiffer sidewalls, reinforcing that stiffness.

And your new wheel/tire combo should actually weigh less than stock. This means less unsprung mass, which is one of the most important things for good handling. Because the wheels & tires weigh less, they will have less inertia, tending to track to the road surface more faithfully = surer grip. Heavier stock wheels bounce more over bumps, because their greater mass wants to keep moving after the bump is long gone. This is why it feels less harsh (more controlled) when you roll over a bigger bump. The lightness of your new wheels more easily follows output from the suspension. Spring says, "Down!". Wheel & tire say, "Yes sir!"

If you had mounted a 60 tire on your new wheels, you'd probably notice about the same level of road feel as stock, but less harsh over bumps (super comfortable). If you had gone with a heavier rim and same 50 tire, you'd notice the ride was more firm, but also more harsh than stock (very clunky). Your new set-up is the best type for spirited driving. Nice job!

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyThu Apr 11, 2013 10:07 pm

Outstanding!
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyFri Apr 12, 2013 11:10 am

I love the look of those on your car. Just the right mix of sport and class.
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyFri Apr 12, 2013 11:15 am

Aaron - that makes perfect sense, thinking back on it. Physics! Woo! Either way, I love the way it rides now, and it wasn't bad before!

And thanks guys! That's exactly what I was going for Yoss.
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyFri Apr 12, 2013 11:18 am

Now your sig needs updating. smile

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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyFri Apr 12, 2013 11:23 am

I'm running out of room tongue
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyFri Apr 12, 2013 1:18 pm

It's simply amazing what the right rims will do for a car. thumbsup
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyFri Apr 12, 2013 1:26 pm

I really like those wheels! I wonder if a "Buick" center cap would fit. Did you post what those cost?

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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyFri Apr 12, 2013 2:38 pm

I agree Dave...they make the car look completely different. A little more modern even, and I wasn't expecting that.

Al - I didn't think to try that before I put them on the car. I have a few caps I can try but I'd really rather make some sort of "R" centercap to match the car. I have a few ideas.

And I put my invoice away but I think each wheel was $115, each tire was $144, and all things said and done to my door I think they were $1,190-something. Compared with what I COULD have spent, I think I did good. They came with (surprisingly) correct sized centering rings already installed, a new set of lugs, and lug adapter for a crossbar.
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyFri Apr 12, 2013 3:45 pm


Do you know if these Sport Edition SE-14's with tires are lighter than the stock 16s with tires mounted?

Al
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptySat Apr 13, 2013 12:28 am

Looks amazing. I want to see more pics. Not to sound stupid but I feel the back end is way high because the rear didn't have a chance to re-adjust after throwing on the new wheels. I remember how my Riv would do that too. smile
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyWed May 01, 2013 12:56 pm

Hey Rick, I have a few more pics I took last week when the sun was out that one time ( razz ) . And yes you're right, the back was sitting way high in those pictures lol. I had JUST set it down on the ground and started snapping away. These pictures make it look a little more normal:

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Pay no attention to the chipping rocker paint. I've already stripped it off lol.
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I'm so happy with these wheels. The looks, the handling, the ride, everything. Some of the best money I've ever spent on a car (except for maybe my Karma Kustoms M62...).
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyWed May 01, 2013 2:54 pm

AA wrote:
The lightness of your new wheels more easily follows output from the suspension. Spring says, "Down!". Wheel & tire say, "Yes sir!"

LOL lol
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyFri May 03, 2013 3:21 pm

Hey where did you purchase those wheels, may have to copy you hahaha
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PostSubject: Re: Back in Black   Back in Black - Page 9 EmptyFri May 03, 2013 6:08 pm

Once you get a chance, let us know the diameter of the wheel's decorative center cap to see if any OEM Buick caps might fit, or what it might take to trim some down to fit.

IMHO, these are definitely the best looking aftermarket wheels I've seen on a Riviera so far. They look like they were designed for it.

Al
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