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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:18 am | |
| http://www.nahrods.com/
oo man did i just give away the engine swap darn. still saving the cash but yes im converting to RWD and running a LS6
before you say i wont do it, read the SIG
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:24 am | |
| - TonySmooth89 wrote:
- When he gets that thing together im thinking hes gonna be moving a lot better than you travis...
yess but it has to be running right? and why not just put a LS9 in there 620 hp and SUPERCHARGED | |
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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:25 am | |
| cuz i dont have 15K laying around, if i did i would put down payment on a sierra 2500HD | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:27 am | |
| - palermocorey90 wrote:
- cuz i dont have 15K laying around, if i did i would put down payment on a sierra 2500HD
if you can convert the riv to RWD and stuff that LS6 in there you can be RIV OF THE CENTURY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:28 am | |
| i helped just slam a LS6 SC'd in a M3. dude im from NY we dont mess around, im not going for the hottest 8th gen for no reason
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Jason Aficionado
Name : Jason Age : 41 Location : Comox, BC, Canada Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 1378 Merit : 66
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:17 am | |
| If you are seriously considering ls1, rwd swap, I seriously doubt you can do it for less than 15k, unless you are one awesome fabricator. | |
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TType_Riviera Fanatic
Name : Rob Age : 42 Location : ohio Joined : 2007-03-05 Post Count : 422 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:27 am | |
| - Jason wrote:
- If you are seriously considering ls1, rwd swap, I seriously doubt you can do it for less than 15k, unless you are one awesome fabricator.
werd..although corey does weld...its going to take some serious suspension mods, basically back halfing the car to hold a rear diff... i agree with Jason | |
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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:35 am | |
| i got all the tools a work mig tig welders, CNC machine, mandrel bender, pretty much everything i will need, this is also why i brought up the cowl hood thread. my goal is to have it look stock, other then lowered and 18s and paint but other then that look stock. although this wont happen till next winter when i have the riv in our new garage.but it will be happening | |
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TType_Riviera Fanatic
Name : Rob Age : 42 Location : ohio Joined : 2007-03-05 Post Count : 422 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:40 am | |
| i hope it all works out for you man.... you know anyone thats done chassis work? if not...then god speed my friend. | |
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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:43 am | |
| yea i have done some chassis work but not much, josh owned of new age hot roads has a frame jig | |
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TType_Riviera Fanatic
Name : Rob Age : 42 Location : ohio Joined : 2007-03-05 Post Count : 422 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:48 am | |
| - palermocorey90 wrote:
- yea i have done some chassis work but not much, josh owned of new age hot roads has a frame jig
Rock on! | |
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Jack the R Master
Joined : 2007-01-16 Post Count : 8072 Merit : 105
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:03 am | |
| - palermocorey90 wrote:
- i got all the tools a work mig tig welders, CNC machine, mandrel bender, pretty much everything i will need, this is also why i brought up the cowl hood thread. my goal is to have it look stock, other then lowered and 18s and paint but other then that look stock. although this wont happen till next winter when i have the riv in our new garage.but it will be happening
Save your money and bide your time, by next winter the world will be a different place car technology-wise. Production PML Flightlink wheel motors will either be available or a few months away. Two of those will rape your LS6 to the tune of 1000+ instantaneous lb/ft of torque and you can still put two on the front wheels. There's a reason why the fantasy Rivs in my sig don't specify a rwd V8 conversion. The rear suspension will need to be beefed up to handle the power but that's nowhere near the amount of work involved in swapping a rwd axle and driveshaft in. God only knows where you'd route the exhaust with the driveshaft taking its place. | |
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BillBoost37 Junkie
Location : Enfield CT Joined : 2007-11-28 Post Count : 769 Merit : 26
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:31 pm | |
| - palermocorey90 wrote:
- dude im from NY we dont mess around,
Corey.. you are from Utica... lol Seriously though.. sounds cool if you have the means or ability to make it work...go for it. | |
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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:06 pm | |
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97rivman Fanatic
Name : alex Age : 38 Location : Crete,IL Joined : 2007-06-09 Post Count : 484 Merit : 2
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:05 am | |
| ur best bet is probably to get a cadillac 4t80-e trans, and mount that up to the engine.....but ur problem is still gonna be the fact that ur still gonna be slower than mine by the time you get it finished.... u could maybe pick up an 4.2L inline six with all wheel drive platform for cheaper and easier than an entire MR conversion. and with the right reworking and a big ass turbo, u can push 1000+ HP......Thats just what I "would" do | |
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TType_Riviera Fanatic
Name : Rob Age : 42 Location : ohio Joined : 2007-03-05 Post Count : 422 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:22 am | |
| Theres Plenty of simple mods you can do to that LS6 to make power.an hell if your that inclined some mild internals,and a nice vortech centrifugal blower an the right tune,you can make 1000 outta tha LS6.. I think its a cool project,and will be very unique. but it seems no matter what anyone does your still going to be slower than 97rivman.. | |
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Jack the R Master
Joined : 2007-01-16 Post Count : 8072 Merit : 105
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:06 am | |
| Isn't 97rivman making good points? 1000hp to the rear with 67% (?) of the wieght on the front tires sounds inferior to the AWD plan to me. | |
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:19 am | |
| well i doubt it would have that much of a forward weight bias if it was converted to rear drive as the transmission would be more centered in the car , the engine would be mounted further back behind the front ( most likely) and the rear axle would add a few pounds to the rear end too... i think you'd get a car with a bias in the high 50s forward at worst...with 1000hp however you wouldnt be able to put hardly any of it down until about 120 ( at best) unless it had slicks or very wide rears ( think pro-street tubs) ... i recently read an atricle testing the lingenfelter z06 w/ over 1100hp and it only ran about 2 tenths quicker in the quarter with double the horsepower and on the street it would probably be even if a regular z06 and the lingenfelter raced below 100... it made it to 200 in 18.9 seconds though ...so yeah i think the awd would be the most streetable setup. but 1000hp rwd car sounds pretty fun to me. | |
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TType_Riviera Fanatic
Name : Rob Age : 42 Location : ohio Joined : 2007-03-05 Post Count : 422 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:30 am | |
| Ofcourse, an AWD setup would be awesome, cheaper an easier? maybe, but at 1000hp you will break drivetrain components..there goes the *cheaper* i dont have any clue what chassis he speaks of,is it just the drive components? or an actual frame you will set the body on?
it will all depend on what kind of suspension the rwd setup will get.
a built 12 or 14 bolt rear end,and a Tremec 6 spd gear box...there ya have it. or mate a complete vette rear suspension/trans right under the back....remembering the riv body will be heavier than the vette,which is a big chunk of fiber glass. | |
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Jack the R Master
Joined : 2007-01-16 Post Count : 8072 Merit : 105
| Subject: Re: LS6 Swap Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:58 am | |
| TonySmooth89 - It begs the question of when the Vette will go AWD, doesn't it?
TType_Riviera - Aren't their Vette suspension kits for muscle cars?
The idea of a Riv with the Vette's rear end and rear mount transmission is interesting. I'd think you'd need to put loads of track time into tuning the suspension afterwards. Who knows how it would behave? | |
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