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turtleman Expert
Name : Codith Age : 37 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
| Subject: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:25 pm | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:07 pm | |
| Logically the next step for me, but not sure if I'm ready to spend the $$$. If/when I do, it'll probably be this one:
http://www.wbodystore.com/grandprix/product_info.php?cPath=14&products_id=100 _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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turtleman Expert
Name : Codith Age : 37 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:56 pm | |
| - AA wrote:
- Logically the next step for me, but not sure if I'm ready to spend the $$$. If/when I do, it'll probably be this one:
http://www.wbodystore.com/grandprix/product_info.php?cPath=14&products_id=100 AA, what are they talking about with the fuel rails in that site? | |
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racinfan Addict
Name : Joe Location : Cleveland, OH Joined : 2007-02-05 Post Count : 567 Merit : 5
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:32 pm | |
| It's good to see the prices coming down. How much room under the hood do we have? | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:44 pm | |
| i helped the guys in the local club install a SS I/C on a GTP the other week and it was pretty easy. the hardest part is remembering where all the sensors and vac lines go. to answer codith's question, the stock fuel rails either need to be cut and lengthened or buy new ones to alow the I/C to fit, tho i dont think the series 1 s/c engines have rails that go over the housing?? a zzp SS will fit fine under our hood, but i dont know about any others. we have about 2" of clearence before touching the fire pad on the hood. oh, and the intake tube will have to be reworked due to the new angel the I/C creates. just a warning to those of you with non flexable FWI's...Aaron _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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oldsman105 Junkie
Name : Enrique Patino Age : 39 Location : Queens, New York City Joined : 2007-01-24 Post Count : 756 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:02 pm | |
| just a reminder the SSIC kit will not work with the series 1. And the fuel rail does go over the SC on the Series 1 engine. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:26 pm | |
| W-Body has fuel logs for a little over $100, made from OEM rails. Look good to me.
Mr.Riv, I hear you on the FWI. I would need to make some sort of adapter/extension out of plastic/silicone to make it reach the TB. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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dreww Junkie
Location : Dallas Joined : 2007-04-10 Post Count : 851 Merit : 9
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:36 am | |
| - AA wrote:
- Logically the next step for me, but not sure if I'm ready to spend the $$$. If/when I do, it'll probably be this one:
http://www.wbodystore.com/grandprix/product_info.php?cPath=14&products_id=100 well you need to hurry up, cause I need a write up before I get this far. | |
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SpaceBar Aficionado
Name : Patrick Age : 38 Location : Quincy, MA Joined : 2007-04-08 Post Count : 1199 Merit : 3
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96riv Fanatic
Name : Dennis Location : Phoenix Joined : 2007-03-08 Post Count : 395 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:58 pm | |
| I will buy the ZZ shortstack and install it when the weather cools. Just looking to run a 3.4 pulley. I need the cooling to combat the blast furnace I live in. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:48 pm | |
| Should easily be able to run a 3.4" with SS IC and t-stat/plugs, imo. It's a pricier route, but I think it's safer in the long run. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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oldsman105 Junkie
Name : Enrique Patino Age : 39 Location : Queens, New York City Joined : 2007-01-24 Post Count : 756 Merit : 10
| Subject: Is there any riviera running a Intercooler? Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:46 pm | |
| I am curious is or has there been any riviera with a IC (not counting the TT drag car riviera). I have a setup reday to go on the car but the Front mount heat exchanger is proving to be a challenge. I would prefer not to cut anything but I don't see a choice.
Any and all help is appreciated. | |
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ewolfe0050 Aficionado
Name : Eric Location : Indianapolis, IN Joined : 2007-07-31 Post Count : 1159 Merit : 27
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:45 pm | |
| [img]I plan on putting on the new style intercooler on when it comes out in April and have pondered the exchanger location too. I think I will move the latch bracket support at the bottom and fabricate another brace to move it out 4-5"... see below. That way you can fit a nice large 25" x 19" x 4" deep exchanger (or whatever size would fit) Look on ebay for the exchangers. There are thousands and several vendors will build custom dimensions. [ | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:46 pm | |
| I would guess Alex is running an IC, but I don't recall for sure. | |
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Karma Aficionado
Name : Andrew Age : 40 Location : Ontario, Canada Joined : 2008-01-14 Post Count : 1949 Merit : 123
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:40 pm | |
| what about these things? http://www.thrashercharged.com/L67_htm/new_cooler.shtm $$$ I know...
or another solution: http://www.frozenboost.com/product_info.php?cPath=12&products_id=204&osCsid=0e95c602f8eafe3c1a3311b9d1b7e420 | |
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ewolfe0050 Aficionado
Name : Eric Location : Indianapolis, IN Joined : 2007-07-31 Post Count : 1159 Merit : 27
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:56 pm | |
| Thrasher is no longer in business. Most other 3800 vendors are designing new style intercooler because the cores they used were Ford Probe heater cores that are no longer available. I believe oldsman105 has the intercooler but you still need to run a heat exchanger... his question was concerning location of the exchanger.
I have seen the latter style but have no knowledge with them. | |
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97rivman Fanatic
Name : alex Age : 38 Location : Crete,IL Joined : 2007-06-09 Post Count : 484 Merit : 2
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:18 pm | |
| NO INTERCOOLER for me, i dont plan on using one for the supercharger. ive got enough airflow between the cam and valves that i dont have to worry about kr too much yet.
my intentions are twin turbo. | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:54 pm | |
| eric that picture you showed is more of a turbo intercooler, or for a side-mounted supercharger. You need a path to get air from the S/C into that exchanger, then back to the intake manifold. You could use an exchanger like that if you put on an L36 LIM and a side-mounted S/C but it's kind of impractical.
alex, if you do go turbo you'll need to worry about where to put your intercooler core. Our front bumper is certainly a challenging location.
eric, if you use a more standard w-body style heat exchanger (somebody had one with two small coolers on either side of the hood latch, intense maybe?) it's much narrower so you can fit it in front of the radiator with some creative bracket fabbing. | |
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97rivman Fanatic
Name : alex Age : 38 Location : Crete,IL Joined : 2007-06-09 Post Count : 484 Merit : 2
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:28 pm | |
| - deekster_caddy wrote:
alex, if you do go turbo you'll need to worry about where to put your intercooler core. Our front bumper is certainly a challenging location. im not worried about it, by the time im ready to twin turbo, ill have my custom air dam built | |
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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:45 pm | |
| that he will buy from me | |
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nothincame2mind Aficionado
Name : Ryan Age : 39 Location : Columbia, Missouri Joined : 2007-01-19 Post Count : 1182 Merit : 20
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:02 pm | |
| I'm thinking about doing an intercooler as my next major mod. If I get a Short Stack intercooler from ZZP will it fit right under my hood? What about their normal intercooler? | |
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BillBoost37 Junkie
Location : Enfield CT Joined : 2007-11-28 Post Count : 769 Merit : 26
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:31 am | |
| I like the idea of possibly doing two very small exchangers on the sides.
Hmmm I'll need to start measuring when I'm at the yard. Olds..how much room do you have in measurements? | |
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oldsman105 Junkie
Name : Enrique Patino Age : 39 Location : Queens, New York City Joined : 2007-01-24 Post Count : 756 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:34 am | |
| - BillBoost37 wrote:
- I like the idea of possibly doing two very small exchangers on the sides.
Hmmm I'll need to start measuring when I'm at the yard. Olds..how much room do you have in measurements? Not much bill. i will try to get measurments and pics today. | |
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BillBoost37 Junkie
Location : Enfield CT Joined : 2007-11-28 Post Count : 769 Merit : 26
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC) Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:03 am | |
| Either that.. or if you get here Friday night for Pickle's day, ...I'm thinking the JY is a go Saturday morning. Pickles needs parts. Only one question... Do you mind driving to the JY? | |
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oldsman105 Junkie
Name : Enrique Patino Age : 39 Location : Queens, New York City Joined : 2007-01-24 Post Count : 756 Merit : 10
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