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bmcd9179 Fanatic
Name : Bryson Age : 28 Location : Utah Joined : 2013-09-21 Post Count : 288 Merit : 1
| Subject: Second boost? Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:55 pm | |
| Hi guys my 1996 supercharged is acting funny I think. So if I floor it in first gear, I will accelerate quickly as normal but around 4k to 4500k rpm the car just jerks forward like it got 50 horsepower gain right there, it is very weird and cool, but is it normal? Cause I know these cars don't have vtec;) I was think it could be my serpentine belt slipping maybe?
It's stock, everything I've done to is in my signature, I mean it's random, sometimes it doesn't hit vtec, then it does, so idk. I like it when it doesn't tho I have way more power in the low end. If you think it's the tranny then I'm flushing the fluid in 2 weeks so we'll see, I'm also getting new belts so maybe that would fix it. | |
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matt270avian Expert
Name : Matt Age : 28 Location : Frederick, MD Joined : 2012-01-15 Post Count : 2681 Merit : 54
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:11 pm | |
| Try turning off the traction control. See if it still does it. | |
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bmcd9179 Fanatic
Name : Bryson Age : 28 Location : Utah Joined : 2013-09-21 Post Count : 288 Merit : 1
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:22 pm | |
| Yah it still does it, But my belts have never been changed so I was thinking the belt was slipping then catching around that rpm. What other possibilities? | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:05 pm | |
| Vtec just kicked in yo! Hope your trans isnt slipping. Anything else different with your since you've noticed the boost? _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:39 pm | |
| So is this behavior different than it used to be? It's not the trans shifting from 1st to 2nd? If your trans is stock, I wouldn't think it would "jerk" exactly, during that shift. | |
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bmcd9179 Fanatic
Name : Bryson Age : 28 Location : Utah Joined : 2013-09-21 Post Count : 288 Merit : 1
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:18 am | |
| Oh and just so you guys are aware when I floored it with the boost guage tonight and vtec kicked in again, the boost didn't change so I guess that's something new.
So it still does it, I notice this started happening when I installed my intake, I plugged my sensor in and put it as close as I could to the intake, but if this sensor is damaged could that be the case?
The sensor looks fine to me I'm just wondering cause I want my low end torque back | |
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th3fr4nchi5e Addict
Name : Dave Age : 31 Location : Cheektowaga, NY (Buffalo) Joined : 2010-10-31 Post Count : 572 Merit : 30
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:53 pm | |
| I would try putting your factory intake back in. If it fixes it, something was wrong with your intake setup. | |
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bmcd9179 Fanatic
Name : Bryson Age : 28 Location : Utah Joined : 2013-09-21 Post Count : 288 Merit : 1
| Subject: Help this is interesting.. Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:57 pm | |
| Ok I'm gonna do that then. I'll keep you posted
Today i installed a boost gauge. when i tested it, i floored it and read 4 pounds then around 5krpm it topped out a 5psi. then when i drove it around some more, i hear the supercharger whine, but read 0psi then around 4500k rpm my boost gauge shoots up to 4psi and i feel a huge kick like vtec lol. this has been happening for a couple months even before the boost gauge, i just didn't know what the car was doing till i added the gauge. i also hear my supercharger snout hissing so i know there a vacuum leak somewhere around there but i don't think thats why my car is acting like this. I've sprayed starter fluid all around the hissing and no revv to. | |
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th3fr4nchi5e Addict
Name : Dave Age : 31 Location : Cheektowaga, NY (Buffalo) Joined : 2010-10-31 Post Count : 572 Merit : 30
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:03 pm | |
| Any way you could take a video of whats happening? | |
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bmcd9179 Fanatic
Name : Bryson Age : 28 Location : Utah Joined : 2013-09-21 Post Count : 288 Merit : 1
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:33 pm | |
| Yes give me 10 min
I'm gonna send it to you threw email Dave I just have a phone so I can't up load it to this website | |
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th3fr4nchi5e Addict
Name : Dave Age : 31 Location : Cheektowaga, NY (Buffalo) Joined : 2010-10-31 Post Count : 572 Merit : 30
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:35 pm | |
| - bmcd9179 wrote:
- I'm gonna send it to you threw email Dave I just have a phone so I can't up load it to this website
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bmcd9179 Fanatic
Name : Bryson Age : 28 Location : Utah Joined : 2013-09-21 Post Count : 288 Merit : 1
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:58 pm | |
| I will check that, could that vtec thing, be because of the bypass actuator? | |
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th3fr4nchi5e Addict
Name : Dave Age : 31 Location : Cheektowaga, NY (Buffalo) Joined : 2010-10-31 Post Count : 572 Merit : 30
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:00 pm | |
| It would certainly make the car react differently to load, as in it would be especially sluggish at lower RPMs. | |
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bmcd9179 Fanatic
Name : Bryson Age : 28 Location : Utah Joined : 2013-09-21 Post Count : 288 Merit : 1
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:12 pm | |
| After investigation it is really messed up I'm going to create a video and send it to you, this has been messed with badly by the guy before me..
So where could I get a new actuator? Would the pontiac gtp ones work off of ebay? | |
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th3fr4nchi5e Addict
Name : Dave Age : 31 Location : Cheektowaga, NY (Buffalo) Joined : 2010-10-31 Post Count : 572 Merit : 30
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bmcd9179 Fanatic
Name : Bryson Age : 28 Location : Utah Joined : 2013-09-21 Post Count : 288 Merit : 1
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:05 am | |
| I just bought a new one but yah how does it bolt on it looks like Im missing something that is keeping it still, also the vacuum lines to it are destroyed so yah I just bought a new one. Ill email you another video tomorrow when it's day light | |
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matt270avian Expert
Name : Matt Age : 28 Location : Frederick, MD Joined : 2012-01-15 Post Count : 2681 Merit : 54
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:10 am | |
| Just out of curiosity, would one off of a Gen V work? I wouldn't expect it to give you any gains though. | |
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bmcd9179 Fanatic
Name : Bryson Age : 28 Location : Utah Joined : 2013-09-21 Post Count : 288 Merit : 1
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:15 am | |
| Gen 4?
So I bought my new one, it's the exact one that fits, it bolts right on and I join up my vacuum lines, so wish me luck, I'll still send u a video on how bad it's messed up.. | |
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th3fr4nchi5e Addict
Name : Dave Age : 31 Location : Cheektowaga, NY (Buffalo) Joined : 2010-10-31 Post Count : 572 Merit : 30
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:20 am | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:25 pm | |
| BTW the '96 has a very different vacuum line and routing than the '98, not sure what's in the '97. Just make sure you are referencing another '96. I believe the BBV (Boost Bypass Valve) is the same on all the Gen 3 blowers, not sure if the Gen V has the same valve. I would expect it to be the same but have no way to verify.
Make sure there aren't any vacuum leaks. Make really really sure.
It wouldn't hurt to test the valve with a vacuum pump. There is also an exhaust valve and electric actuator in it, make sure the wire is hooked up. That one wire on the BBV is the only electrical difference between an SC motor and an NA motor. | |
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bmcd9179 Fanatic
Name : Bryson Age : 28 Location : Utah Joined : 2013-09-21 Post Count : 288 Merit : 1
| Subject: Re: Second boost? Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:40 pm | |
| I have a vacuum leak, both the wires connect in to the bypass are broken off so I got a whole new actuator
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