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Jason Aficionado
Name : Jason Age : 41 Location : Comox, BC, Canada Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 1378 Merit : 66
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Sat May 03, 2008 1:44 pm | |
| put the IAT sensor in the pipe. | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Sat May 03, 2008 3:39 pm | |
| This is what I did for mine. Drilled a big hole in an elbow and filed two slots, then put the IAT sensor in with it's gasket. I had trouble making it stay in so I wrapped the sensor and PVC in black vinyl electrical tape.[/url] | |
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turtleman Expert
Name : Codith Age : 37 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Sat May 03, 2008 3:46 pm | |
| I put mine into a straight piece. Drilled the hole and made carefully fitted slots so I could put in the sensor and twist to secure. Worked out perfect cause the curve of the pipe puts just enough pressure on the sensors tabs to hold it tight but not mushroom the edjes or anything. I didn't even have to use any rubber seal or anything. For my new one, I may try a seal again just for S's & G's or perhaps silicone it a little bit. | |
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96RivSCMI Enthusiast
Name : Kenon Age : 39 Location : Wright City, MO Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 123 Merit : 2
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Tue May 20, 2008 2:25 pm | |
| Got my S&B 7" ordered. Just one quick question: How much does that straight section of PVC need to be cut down? I read that article on the short ram intake and realized I was hurting my riv. I had heard before that it wasn't the absolute best for our cars, but I never would have that it was that bad. Needless to say I will be joining the 4" FWI crowd. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Tue May 20, 2008 2:57 pm | |
| It's not certain damage, but our engines need the coolest possible air when you mod for power. The short ram is especially bad when your car is stopped at idle, or when you have exhaust headers, which increase underhood temps. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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96RivSCMI Enthusiast
Name : Kenon Age : 39 Location : Wright City, MO Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 123 Merit : 2
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Tue May 20, 2008 3:05 pm | |
| Might as well reduce the possibility of damage even if it's not certain. | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Tue May 20, 2008 4:21 pm | |
| I still want to do a FWI, but would LOVE to see someone's pic of their enlarged fenderwell hole to fit it in. I'm seeing about 4deg KR today on hard accel on my LS1M, ambient of 60, IAT of 70, and this is with my coated Plog now installed, 3.8 pulley back on, and gas at about 89 octane. Once I get down to about a quarter tank I'll fill with 91 again, was running the cheap stuff while I was NA.
I may go 3.5" instead of 4". Are you guys using a rubber intake adapter at the TB? I want to use a silicone 45deg adapter elbow there, but the silicone doesn't really stretch, though it is flexible. It is a reinforced/braided silicone. The TB outside diameter is actually a hair over 3.75" at the ribbed edge that the tube has to slip over. Wondering if I ought to go 3.75" with the silicone... | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Tue May 20, 2008 4:37 pm | |
| - 1998 Riv wrote:
- I still want to do a FWI, but would LOVE to see someone's pic of their enlarged fenderwell hole to fit it in
Mine is 4" dryer vent, but I assure you it's only prototype for now I did not put the IAT in it (it's just laying next to the hose, close enough for now) and the hole I made is NOT pretty. It needs some cleanup, and I'm going to put some door edge guard on the sheetmetal edge. I more wanted to get fitment right first. The thing I don't like about it is that I realized the air opening in the bottom of the fenderwell area is actually the bottom of the engine compartment anyhow. This means the filter is exposed to road spray and lots of sand (my filter was NASTY), and it's just drawing engine compartment air anyway. I think a behind-the-headlight approach might be better. Then you can remove the headlight assy at the track for ram-air style action I'll take some pics when I get rid of the dryer vent. | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Tue May 20, 2008 4:43 pm | |
| _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Tue May 20, 2008 4:47 pm | |
| Aaah, page one of this very thread! Thanks AA! | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Tue May 20, 2008 4:55 pm | |
| _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Wed May 21, 2008 1:51 pm | |
| I'm going this route, available in 45 deg, 4" x 3.5" silicone reducer. Ordered today, you don't want to know how much... | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Wed May 21, 2008 1:53 pm | |
| $35? i used a 4" OD coupler and it fits very snug. i dont even need the clamps, but they are good insurance _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Wed May 21, 2008 2:02 pm | |
| That's awesome, Dave. Very good idea. But it's so... smurfy! _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Wed May 21, 2008 4:19 pm | |
| That's just a file photo. I'm getting black. | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Wed May 21, 2008 4:21 pm | |
| I'm hoping that with it turned at a downward angle, I can go with 1 4" PVC pipe into the FW and my K&N. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Wed May 21, 2008 4:24 pm | |
| Nice! _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Wed May 21, 2008 6:08 pm | |
| The legs are both 6" long on it, should be a good fit to bend just at the overflow tank. | |
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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Wed May 21, 2008 8:19 pm | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Wed May 21, 2008 9:38 pm | |
| www.stylinmotors.com
Don't bother clicking on the Buick listings, that's just Grand National stuff. Cost for the one I ordered: $67 to my door.... told you it wasn't cheap. | |
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96RivSCMI Enthusiast
Name : Kenon Age : 39 Location : Wright City, MO Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 123 Merit : 2
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Sat May 31, 2008 8:31 pm | |
| Well here is the initial set-up... I will finish painting next week and give better pics. I used 4" PVC and a 7" S&B. I took it for a spin a little while ago and am extremely happy with the result. Why didn't I do this sooner? | |
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texasfan010 Enthusiast
Joined : 2008-02-18 Post Count : 215 Merit : 1
| Subject: Intake question Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:58 am | |
| ok i want to do a 4" FWI, but my dad just doesnt like the idea of hard piping as it gets quite hot, and PVC supposably doesnt look good, so what can i do? Thanks for your help | |
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Supercharged Addict
Name : Blake Age : 34 Location : Akron, Ohio Joined : 2008-03-12 Post Count : 611 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:06 am | |
| my bros got 4' PVC, it hasnt failed yet?
well its on his regal but its still its gotta blower
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Building a Custom PVC Fenderwell Intake Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:20 am | |
| Intense or ZZP intake tubing. its about 11-12 bucks a foot and supposedly works well. I have some sitting in my room waiting for me to have some free time right now. | |
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