| Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) | |
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ibmoses Aficionado
Name : Bert Location : North Alabama Joined : 2008-02-03 Post Count : 1701 Merit : 32
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:33 pm | |
| - 98riv wrote:
- Try bending the mounting tabs so that you don't have to use as many washers.
With the bar just barely clearing the master cylinder I have hood bulge(see pic). Not sure but it seems like the master cylinder in this car is a fuzz higher than normal? Bert | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:26 pm | |
| You need to even out your spacers. You shouldn't have to make it that high on one side. Lower it back down a little and try to have equal spacing on both sides. Mine has less than 1/8 clearance to the mas. cyl. and I have no hood bulge at all. No contact to the hood whatsoever. | |
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dreww Junkie
Location : Dallas Joined : 2007-04-10 Post Count : 851 Merit : 9
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:10 am | |
| I only put one washer on each bolt (could maybe have gotten away with none). I used a sander and sanded ALOT off the top of the master cylinder - especially where the STB crosses over. Like so much, I almost cut all the way into it. Maybe 1 to 2mm of plastic left. I had to drill out the bolt holes on the STB. Put my dewalt to the test. My rubber mallet came in handy too. | |
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lyonsperformance Enthusiast
Name : Michael Age : 40 Location : Buffalo N.Y. Joined : 2008-08-02 Post Count : 178 Merit : 0
| Subject: Strut tower brace Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:19 am | |
| Looking for a strut tower brace, checked ZZP, and Intense, will a tower brace for a GTP, fit a 96 Rivi? car handles well but stock suspension is a little on the soft side as you already know, i will be installing KYB shocks and struts, i would like to limit as much body roll as possible. | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:20 am | |
| No stb made specifically for the Rivs. However, a late model Caddy STS stb is almost a direct bolt on. Lots of guys here use it. W-body will not fit. | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:49 pm | |
| what year is your car? Put some info in your sig. please. | |
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Karma Aficionado
Name : Andrew Age : 40 Location : Ontario, Canada Joined : 2008-01-14 Post Count : 1949 Merit : 123
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:17 am | |
| here are some pics of my custom strut tower brace. I thought I'd better post them instead of having them just sitting around on my computer. I'm begining to find that either the series I engine sits a bit higher than the 2, or maybe sits farther back in the engine bay. All the pics I saw of others(all series 2) and how they used the STS STB seemed to have way more room at their disposal, as well as Eric's custom one. So i figured I was better off making one from scratch: The ends I had actually made almost 5 months ago, but then had no time to finish. I made rough blanks out of cardboard to figure the shape I wanted, made sure that the bolts were indeed square with the car(they are!), and then cut the shape from some steel plate I had around. And below we can see the clearance of the break res.: The thing is VERY stiff, the one ton press wouldent make the slight bends I needed so I used the ten ton. The angle needed was measured(something like 4 deg if i recall correctly), and then both ends were made to match. Dunno if it really makes a big difference, seems to roll less in the front... but its hard to tell with my rear shocks falling apart.(but not to worry, Ranchos are on order!) _________________ | |
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Jack the R Master
Joined : 2007-01-16 Post Count : 8072 Merit : 105
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:39 pm | |
| You're gonna love those Ranchos Be sure to make an STB for the rear so it can handle them! | |
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Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13 Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:14 pm | |
| Anyone know if his 95 STB is compatible with the 96? | |
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Karma Aficionado
Name : Andrew Age : 40 Location : Ontario, Canada Joined : 2008-01-14 Post Count : 1949 Merit : 123
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:32 pm | |
| I could check if there was a 96+ riv in the area... well there is, but i dunno what the "old dears" would think of , "hey, i just want to try something out on your engine..." from a stranger.... _________________ | |
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Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13 Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:12 pm | |
| you still have the template? | |
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Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13 Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:35 pm | |
| ...man this is crazy.....
I work for one of the largest machine shops in the country....I should see if I can make one here.... | |
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Steve98 Member
Name : Steve Location : Atlanta, Georgia Joined : 2008-06-10 Post Count : 93 Merit : 2
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:42 pm | |
| I installed this brace over the weekend. I have a 98, so the holes matched up with the bolts. I had major clearance issues, though, and had to use 8 washers all around. I've got a slight bulge in my hood now, which I don't like. I love how much better my Riv drives, though. It corners better and just feels more solid in general. This is a great mod and I agree that the brace should have been stock. I want to brace the rear strut towers, too. | |
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ibmoses Aficionado
Name : Bert Location : North Alabama Joined : 2008-02-03 Post Count : 1701 Merit : 32
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:45 pm | |
| Thats the same problem I had with the wifes 99. Big stacks of washers, slight hood bulge and still just barely clearing the master cylinder. Bert - Steve98 wrote:
- I installed this brace over the weekend. I have a 98, so the holes matched up with the bolts. I had major clearance issues, though, and had to use 8 washers all around. I've got a slight bulge in my hood now, which I don't like. I love how much better my Riv drives, though. It corners better and just feels more solid in general. This is a great mod and I agree that the brace should have been stock. I want to brace the rear strut towers, too.
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:57 pm | |
| Interesting. I wonder why some have clearance issues and some do not... | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:02 pm | |
| I think it's the bars more than anything. Make sure those bars are straight...
Mine was bent when it arrived. Even a slight curve will throw off the alignment. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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Karma Aficionado
Name : Andrew Age : 40 Location : Ontario, Canada Joined : 2008-01-14 Post Count : 1949 Merit : 123
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:19 pm | |
| I'd offer to make custom ones, but it sure wouldn't be cheaper than getting the STS one... _________________ | |
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Jack the R Master
Joined : 2007-01-16 Post Count : 8072 Merit : 105
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:06 pm | |
| - Karma wrote:
- I'd offer to make custom ones, but it sure wouldn't be cheaper than getting the STS one...
I wouldn't mind having better ones with no clearance issues. I've got other $ priorities at the moment though, but I bet I'm not the only potential buyer. | |
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SuperRiv07 Addict
Name : Nick Age : 40 Location : Brookfield, And If everything goes right A Nice big house in Bolingbrook with a big GARAGE Joined : 2008-07-20 Post Count : 706 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:27 pm | |
| I want one? I really dont want to buy this caddilac one and it dont work and I strecth it to work and while doing that i weaken it | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:30 pm | |
| - SuperRiv07 wrote:
- I want one? I really dont want to buy this caddilac one and it dont work and I strecth it to work and while doing that i weaken it
mine worked perfect not to brag or nothin | |
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SuperRiv07 Addict
Name : Nick Age : 40 Location : Brookfield, And If everything goes right A Nice big house in Bolingbrook with a big GARAGE Joined : 2008-07-20 Post Count : 706 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:32 pm | |
| yeah but I read all the pages and they seemed to work on 98's with no problem but seem not to line up on earlier models and I have a 96 | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:33 pm | |
| - SuperRiv07 wrote:
- yeah but I read all the pages and they seemed to work on 98's with no problem but seem not to line up on earlier models and I have a 96
modify it...... thats what ewolf did..... he basically custom made one! | |
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SuperRiv07 Addict
Name : Nick Age : 40 Location : Brookfield, And If everything goes right A Nice big house in Bolingbrook with a big GARAGE Joined : 2008-07-20 Post Count : 706 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:34 pm | |
| Yeah I dont have anything to do that with and I dont have a garage to work in at the moment? What kind do you use in the rear? | |
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Karma Aficionado
Name : Andrew Age : 40 Location : Ontario, Canada Joined : 2008-01-14 Post Count : 1949 Merit : 123
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:35 pm | |
| ewolf did custom make one, did he not? It was similar to the one I custom made, but mine had a bit more material in around the strut tower... _________________ | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:37 pm | |
| - SuperRiv07 wrote:
- Yeah I dont have anything to do that with and I dont have a garage to work in at the moment? What kind do you use in the rear?
i have a sub box so i chose NOT to make a rear one | |
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