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oldsman105 Junkie
Name : Enrique Patino Age : 39 Location : Queens, New York City Joined : 2007-01-24 Post Count : 756 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:52 pm | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:59 pm | |
| I love....... filling them manually i can raise the back end at lest 5 inches between the whell and fender and the bumper is off the groudn allot to...........ill check that captain kirk | |
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jhodges Member
Name : JOHNNY Age : 69 Location : MACON, GEORGIA Joined : 2007-06-27 Post Count : 59 Merit : 1
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:37 pm | |
| Got the monroe shocks installed today, no problems plugged right up just as stock works and drives much much tighter !! highly recommend the Monroe MA822. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:18 pm | |
| Be careful on high mileage cars, removing the air lines from the old shocks. My O-rings remained inside the nipple while trying to remove. This means a leaky line in the new shock.
Rather than purchase O-rings or a new line, I repaired mine with duct tape! This may or may not work for you, but it did in my case. The flared end of the line is supposed to have two rubber O-rings that are compressed when the clip is on. I wrapped a 1/8" wide, 3" long strip of duct tape (electrical should also work) around the line where the O-rings were to form a "duct tape donut". With the clip on, the line sealed up... no leaks. Not a long-term fix, but it will get me to work for a week or two until I can pick up some O-rings. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:29 am | |
| Aaron, thanks for the tip. I should have the Monroes waiting for me at work tomorrow, been on vacation the past week. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:00 am | |
| Thanks to Jack the R for the write-up. As simple as his instructions were, they were enough. I did not even need to reference the shop manual. Job took 2 hours, but could have been done in one.
I would loosen the top nut (in the trunk) before loosening the bottom bolts, though. This prevents the shock from twisting in the mount. I would also remove air lines first, so they do not bend or break from twisting or dropping the shock during disassembly. So for me, the order was:
1) Lift rear of car. 2) Disconnect air lines. 3) Remove top nut. 4) Remove two bottom bolts. 5) Remove shock. 6) Replace hardware. 7) Install new shock. 8) Tighten bottom bolts. 9) Tighten top nut. 10) Reconnect air lines. 11) Lower car.
Car rides nice with the Monroes. Not a giant difference, but less boating on the hills and in the dips. And the bumps feel better, of course. At 140k miles, it just feels better not having the originals on there. I should credit the OEMs though... never failed, still working well for being 9 years old. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:34 am | |
| Heading to the garage to install my Monroes right now, then do a tire rotation. Will look at the exhaust project this afternoon or tomorrow. | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:17 pm | |
| Not a difficult project, though a short 10mm socket would have helped with removing the outside bolt on the bottom. I only have deep metric sockets, which won't fit to get the outside bolt. I had to use a wimpy little 1/4" socket/ratchet to get in there, which I wasn't sure would hold up to the torque. Both original shocks are in terrible shape, and had started to leak recently. When I pulled the driver side down out of the mount, a shower of rusty crap came out of the upper hole. Also wouldn't have minded having new bolts for the lower mount. Anyways... here's the old stuff, good reason to get rid of your 9 yr old rear shocks: | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:44 pm | |
| Wow Dave, bet she's glad to have the new pair of legs! _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:18 pm | |
| - AA wrote:
- Wow Dave, bet she's glad to have the new pair of legs!
Man, you got that right! Just went for a drive and the handling difference is remarkable. Wish I'd done this back in April or May. Feels much firmer in the turns, and vastly improved going over the "moguls"... it's amazing what functioning shocks will do for a car. I rotated the tires too, and almost swapped the rears to the opposite fronts... (directional tires) | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:23 pm | |
| I had Firestone remount my directional tires when rotating, crossing both front and rears. Amazingly, they did so at no extra charge. It's truly necessary to do this when you frequently drive the car into turns very hard, as the outside tread gets eaten away over time. I was just surprised they honored my request with no hassle! _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:23 pm | |
| I get free rotations too, where I bought the tires. Hadn't thought about having them do it and remount tires. I don't really push it very hard in the turns, so I may not have the uneven wear problem, will have to watch the tread. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:50 am | |
| Yeah, keep an eye on the outside edges. I know my boss's 350Z tire rotation required remounting because it came with directionals from the factory. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:22 pm | |
| UPDATE: My temporary duct tape fix remained on for longer than expected. The result was eventually it started leaking, unbeknown to me. The air pump that inflates the shocks must've began running more frequently, and eventually burnt out. Big bummer...
So, for a time, the rear end of my car was sagging, which was no fun. Yesterday, I installed the replacement air lines I received from ShockWarehouse (link) and bypassed the pump with an air fill fitting. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^
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TType_Riviera Fanatic
Name : Rob Age : 42 Location : ohio Joined : 2007-03-05 Post Count : 422 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:52 pm | |
| AA when you installed your monroes,were they really tight an bumpy for a little bit?? mine were but i think there settling down...i went from bouncy,to feeling like i had no absorbtion.. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:11 pm | |
| Not really. I noticed a firmer ride, bit not too bumpy. Most of all, I noticed a decreased tendency to boat on the expressway. See my initial reaction 10 posts up ^^^ _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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jax95riv Aficionado
Name : Jack Age : 62 Location : Oklahoma City Joined : 2007-01-14 Post Count : 1062 Merit : 6
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:02 pm | |
| I put Monroes on the rear last night after having 135k on the originals that were leaking. The Monroes are really firm to me. Maybe I was just use to squishy shocks. I'm glad I didn't do the F250 mod if they are firmer than the air shocks. This was by far the easiest set of shocks I've ever put on a car. Thanks for the tips Aaron. Struts are next! | |
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jax95riv Aficionado
Name : Jack Age : 62 Location : Oklahoma City Joined : 2007-01-14 Post Count : 1062 Merit : 6
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:14 pm | |
| Second look...I think I may be riding a little high in the back. Is there anyway to adjust them? | |
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jax95riv Aficionado
Name : Jack Age : 62 Location : Oklahoma City Joined : 2007-01-14 Post Count : 1062 Merit : 6
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:52 pm | |
| Update: I found Dave's post about his riding too high and he uncapped the air lines from the shocks and excess air came out. That seems to have fixed mine too. Hopefully, they won't air back up...not sure what all that's about. | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:41 pm | |
| I think it's an initial install thing.
Also, I thought my monroes were a bit stiff for the first month or so, then they went back to 'nice'. Not too soft, not too harsh. | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:52 pm | |
| Jack, mine have been fine since releasing the air after installation. I suspect the linkages may have been hanging up when I first let the rear back down to the floor, resulting in overinflation. Just a wild guess... I also agree that the new shocks are plenty firm, I won't be doing the Rancho's swap. | |
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paulie710 Rookie
Joined : 2008-03-01 Post Count : 12 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:45 am | |
| looking for a regular rear shock for my 95 rivera my air ride doesnt work and would like a shock that i could just bolt up there and forget about the whole air ride thing does anyone have any input and or part #s | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:22 pm | |
| so what psi do you guys run them at? i like the way it feels at 50 or 60psi but the back end sits up soo high. reverse rake it cool...sometimes. i tried letting all the air out at the fill valve and then pumped it back up, but there is still a lot of fender gap. would it make a difference to let the air out directly at the shock vs the fill cap?
paulie710- see the first 2 pages of this thread. the monroe shocks are direct replacement and you can remove the air ride and fill them yourself. _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8685 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:51 pm | |
| Hey Paulie - when you say air ride is busted do you mean the compressor does not work or the switch is not turning the compressor on or what?
Albertj | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:31 pm | |
| I'm guessing he doesn't know. It's hard to diagnose without checking the sensor, wires, pump, and air lines. And I think he's asking for a shock that doesn't use air at all, an ordinary gas shock.
I prefer 40 psi. Perfect ride height , imo. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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