turbo'd 3800 thoughts.

its all in the tune!!

It IS all in the tune, but Turbos are somewhat inconsistent and therefore very hard to max tune.

I think a Gen V with a good cam, headers and proper supporting mods will give you all the power you want without the added reliability questions from IC. (think pump problems)

Unless you are going really really nuts, then go IC and whatever else you want.

deekster_caddy wrote:

It IS all in the tune, but Turbos are somewhat inconsistent and therefore very hard to max tune.

I think a Gen V with a good cam, headers and proper supporting mods will give you all the power you want without the added reliability questions from IC. (think pump problems)

Unless you are going really really nuts, then go IC and whatever else you want.

i agree,but finding a good turbo is a gosend.........that an i am not sure on the abilitys of the riv ecu compared to a standalone..having total control is where its at...until the temperature changes..LOL standalones dont learn well

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TType_Riviera wrote:

its all in the tune!!

Yeah it is all the tune. My point was that this guy was at the track with a team of 3 other guys trying to tune the thing out. It was a hot and humid day, so that was a factor, but imagine having to dial in 1-1.5 seconds of improvement.

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been there done that.....but i understand what your saying..its not easy..especially when the conditions really suck..

does anybody know what type of turbo would fit my 1996 riv? i dont know a whole lot about turbos and need a little help. im lookin for one on ebay but im not sure what to look for.

i was also wondering, i love to shift my car using 1,2,3 is that bad for the tranny? I shift at normal rpm's like 2000 and 2500 for normal driving, but then have fun with it about once every 2, or 3 days.

new update.....as soon as I receive my settlement from my previous sportster being totaled I am upgrading the supercharger setup to either stattam or z7 turbo. my budget should be around 7k. if i can im definitely doin twin charge. anyway what do you guys think?

mmmmm, 7k budget....i only wish....

actually thats not accurate anymore......its much higher so what do you guys think?

Buy another Harley.!!!!!

nah.....had enough fun with motorcycles just looking to turbo the riv, and paint her.

Wow, to be totally honest you have that much to spend and you're not tempted to buy something else? I know it's just me, but given that sort of cash I'd be looking at me a Trans Am WS6 or something. But hey, I'm a sucker for that badass V8 - what can I say...

well i like the big v8's and personally been there done that. so i want to stick with my forced induction riv. i love the body style. power needs a little bit of updating but not much. and I think this is my favorite car yet (besides my supra i used to have but i don't think anything will ever top that)

I like the way you think, Mike. Anxious to see/hear how it turns out. Badass turbo Gen-8 Riv!!! The best of all worlds!!!! With luck I'll have a badass turbo Gen-3 Riv before long!! LOL

pretty sure im gonna go with the z3 kit from zzp. with the boost controller and m90 block off ic ill be pushin 400 hp. my only worry is my tranny. how much can a stock tranny support? my fear is that i would kill the stocker with the turbo kit

Yeah my plan is save up for a Z3 kit+rockers and then when the trans snaps i'll go with a 4t80e...i think.

um.....how much would the trans "snap"

97rivsc wrote:

um.....how much would the trans "snap"

All depends on driving style and luck. AA is making 300hp and his lasted 150k miles. Others have been stock and had it fail much sooner.

But as long as you're not on high boost constantly and doing burnouts and running slicks it "should" hold up for a while. Really all boils down to luck.

well im aiming for 400hp/tq and no i dont drive like that all the time. only every once in a while. and what tq are our trannys rated to?

that will tab you about 3000 for a race trans....

97rivsc wrote:

well im aiming for 400hp/tq and no i dont drive like that all the time. only every once in a while. and what tq are our trannys rated to?

they are "rated" to about 7 lb ft, or so it seems. There is no known fail point, some have the stock tranny last a while, but inevitably if you are really building a 400 hp motor you will need the $3000 race rebuilt version. Might as well do that first...

ahem* 4t80e *cough*

well my dreams kind of came to a halt today when turbo tim at zzp told me that the turbo kits will not fit a riviera........ouch anyway I have to rethink my strategy a little bit. anyone know of a different vendor who sells turbo kits for the l67?