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RhinoFLA Aficionado
Name : Ryan Age : 36 Location : Port Richey, FL Joined : 2007-02-27 Post Count : 1029 Merit : 4
| Subject: ignition wire choices Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:52 pm | |
| I'm planning on ordering a new set tonight, and i'm not sure what brand to go with.. the taylor thundervolt's look promising, but i'm not sure. I just heard of this brand called Nology that has a capacitor within the wire. what have you guys gone with and how were the results | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:58 pm | |
| OEM wires lasted over 100k miles on my car, and that was with mods and through several plug changes. Unless you want something colorful or exotic-looking, I recommend a new set of the stockers (Delphi/AC) for $59.99. Our stock wires are different than most - they're made to handle the higher secondary voltage produced under boost. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^
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RhinoFLA Aficionado
Name : Ryan Age : 36 Location : Port Richey, FL Joined : 2007-02-27 Post Count : 1029 Merit : 4
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:00 pm | |
| yeah next month from my tax return i'm buying accel coil packs which are yellow so i'll probably buy yellow wires. and the thundervolts are 47.69 + shipping, but they don't have them in yellow.. I saw red accel packs or summit, i'm not sure, so i'll probably go with red | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:05 pm | |
| Here you go:
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/details/QQBuickQQRivieraQQAccelQQIgnition_Wire_SetQQ19751998QQA358023.html
Let us know how they work out. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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RhinoFLA Aficionado
Name : Ryan Age : 36 Location : Port Richey, FL Joined : 2007-02-27 Post Count : 1029 Merit : 4
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:08 pm | |
| these look like the same, and I believe those kind have to be cut to length and the boots put on
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=ACC%2D8023&N=700+4294908256+4294908237+4294924744+400020+115&autoview=sku | |
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RhinoFLA Aficionado
Name : Ryan Age : 36 Location : Port Richey, FL Joined : 2007-02-27 Post Count : 1029 Merit : 4
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:09 pm | |
| the taylor wires
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=TAY%2D82213&N=700+4294908256+4294908237+4294924744+400235+115&autoview=sku
they claim to be an "easy, proven, dyno-tested way to gain more power"
I saw someone use a set of these on one of the horsepower tv shows, they said they worked really great
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:10 pm | |
| I'd get them from Summit then, probably less $$. You will likely not gain any power by switching. Because they're made for the SC 3800, our wires are a lot better than your average OEM set. They probably won't be any worse than stock, though.
Believe it or not, if you know which wire is bad, you can order them individually from RockAuto.com:
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1303322,parttype,7224 _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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RhinoFLA Aficionado
Name : Ryan Age : 36 Location : Port Richey, FL Joined : 2007-02-27 Post Count : 1029 Merit : 4
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:39 pm | |
| almost all of the accel wires i've found have said assembled: no
does that mean that you have to trim them and attach the boots? the taylor wires won't ship until the 4th of january from summit.. and the ones on jeg don't have an accurate description, and the picture shows them as 90 deg. boots, but i'm sure that's just a stock photo that doesn't represent the item.. and I found the taylors on 5 other sites all with the same picture.. so i'm not sure | |
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Jason Aficionado
Name : Jason Age : 41 Location : Comox, BC, Canada Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 1378 Merit : 66
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:47 pm | |
| don't believe any of the wire marketing crap. From an EE viewpoint, the only ones that do as advertised are Magnecores. They suppress EMI and RFI interference. That's it (they are fairly heat resistant too)! No magic increase in hp. 0% of the wires that claim an increase in HP yield an increase in HP.
that's not to say that msd or accel or NGK wires are garbage (hey they're basically all made by the same manufacturer anyway), they just aren't worth extra money. I used MSD's in my roadmaster because I got them for 60$ whereas the Delcos were 160$ ! | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:48 pm | |
| I think they are custom trim to fit, and they come in at least two different boot angles. Hard to tell what you are getting unless you ask. One of the sellers shows yellow wires, and describes them as "black".
You could always use stock wires and cover them with a colored dressing or loom. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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jax95riv Aficionado
Name : Jack Age : 62 Location : Oklahoma City Joined : 2007-01-14 Post Count : 1062 Merit : 6
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:50 pm | |
| I always had problems when I had "cut to fit" plug wires. I think Aaron has a good idea to cover the OEMs. | |
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RhinoFLA Aficionado
Name : Ryan Age : 36 Location : Port Richey, FL Joined : 2007-02-27 Post Count : 1029 Merit : 4
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:09 pm | |
| yeah but I still want to replace mine.. i've noticed some wear on them and it would be more money to buy oem blacks and then buy the yellow insulation | |
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RhinoFLA Aficionado
Name : Ryan Age : 36 Location : Port Richey, FL Joined : 2007-02-27 Post Count : 1029 Merit : 4
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:28 pm | |
| I ordered the taylor thundervolt wires from autopartswarehouse.com, it came out to 55.95 with free shipping.. I settled for red lol, thanks for mentioning autoparts warehouse Aaron | |
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turtleman Expert
Name : Codith Age : 37 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:52 am | |
| - RhinoFLA wrote:
- yeah next month from my tax return i'm buying accel coil packs which are yellow so i'll probably buy yellow wires. and the thundervolts are 47.69 + shipping, but they don't have them in yellow.. I saw red accel packs or summit, i'm not sure, so i'll probably go with red
Skip the accel coils! I used em and they suck. If anything, the MSD ones might be better. I got the taylor/msd wires (PRJ wires?) that 3800 and zzp sells and they are awesome. They are very durable and will stay in shape when pulling them often to change plugs and whatnot. I'd say those are by far the best "performance" wire set. Like Aaron said, you can't go wrong with OEMs either. As far as those wires with built in capacitors, it's not going to do much good. The coils render all of the capacitance you need. It's a clever sounding idea but I really don't think that there is any gain. | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8687 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:34 am | |
| I replaced wires some time ago, with 8mm Magnecor "Electrosports 80" wires.
http://www.magnecor.com/
The only problem I've had is that one of the dealer techs wrote on a service invoice that the new wires did not have the OEM level of resistance and so should be replaced. Most techs understand how to measure resistance with an ohmmeter, but not how to measure it in actual ignition conditions or what tools to use.
Anymore, OE wires are usually pretty good.
Albertj | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:07 am | |
| - RhinoFLA wrote:
- I ordered the taylor thundervolt wires from autopartswarehouse.com, it came out to 55.95 with free shipping.. I settled for red lol, thanks for mentioning autoparts warehouse Aaron
Just cross your fingers that they don't F up your order. If they do, GOOD LUCK dealing with customer service. Go to regalgs.org and search for autopartswarehouse.com for the gory details. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:04 pm | |
| Hope there's no trouble with using that vendor. I just found the wires there doing a search. Personally, I've never ordered from them, and had no idea of their bad reputation! _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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RhinoFLA Aficionado
Name : Ryan Age : 36 Location : Port Richey, FL Joined : 2007-02-27 Post Count : 1029 Merit : 4
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:18 pm | |
| yeah i'm not pleased at all so far.. I STILL haven't gotten a damn order confirmation which bothers me considering I just gave them my debit card info you know.. | |
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RhinoFLA Aficionado
Name : Ryan Age : 36 Location : Port Richey, FL Joined : 2007-02-27 Post Count : 1029 Merit : 4
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:28 pm | |
| lol... I call them and the customer service rep answers here's the convo..
Me: Hey, I placed an order last night and I still haven't received an order confirmation
Sales Rep: Okay may I have the order number
Me: ......... I hav en't gotten an order confirmation
apparently they entered my email as RHINO_720F,
no @whatever.com just a comma | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8687 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:24 pm | |
| I liked dealing with Magnecor.
Albertj | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:15 am | |
| Short version:
Ordered Riv struts from autopartswarehouse, said they had stock, then story changed, no stock. Then later they had no idea when they might have any. All while they've already billed my CC. I asked to cancel the order, they agreed. 2 Weeks go by, no refund yet to my CC. Placed call after call after call to them about my refund. Finally had to file a dispute with my CC company. In the end, it took about 3 months to get my CC charges reversed. The vendor finally issued the credit, probably once they realized I wasn't going away and they received the dispute notice from my CC. Sorry, I guess that was the long version. Short version: Don't buy from autopartswarehouse.
I reordered from Summit, had struts in a week, and mounts a week later. I posted the really long version on RegalGS.org and have referenced it here before. | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:17 am | |
| And don't waste your time using their online cust serv Chat function, it is a complete and utter waste of your time. I suggest trying to cancel your order today. | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:18 am | |
| they have HUGE feedback on Ebay, including tons of negatives. | |
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:08 am | |
| Yeah i ordered from them once...they sent my product in like a month and a half and sent the wrong part ...they never returned my complaint and i was out 40 bucks. | |
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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Re: ignition wire choices Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:56 pm | |
| - RhinoFLA wrote:
- yeah next month from my tax return i'm buying accel coil packs which are yellow so i'll probably buy yellow wires. and the thundervolts are 47.69 + shipping, but they don't have them in yellow.. I saw red accel packs or summit, i'm not sure, so i'll probably go with red
please dont buy accel there junk spend a few more bucks and get msd, i have only herd bad things about accel http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MSD%2D8224&N=700+115&autoview=sku http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MSD%2D32789&N=700+400122+115&autoview=sku i have the wires, there a great fit ,im getting the coils for christmas | |
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