Riv Performance
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

The 8th Gen Riviera Resource
 
HomeDashboardLatest imagesSearchRiviera Questions & AnswersWrite-Ups IndexRegisterRelated LinksLog in

 

 Scanning vs. Engine Reliability

Go down 
2 posters
AuthorMessage
Mr.Riviera
Expert
Mr.Riviera


Name : Matthew
Age : 37
Location : Florida
Joined : 2007-01-18
Post Count : 4394
Merit : 101

Scanning vs. Engine Reliability Empty
PostSubject: Scanning vs. Engine Reliability   Scanning vs. Engine Reliability EmptyWed Feb 14, 2007 7:47 pm

From: https://rivperformance.editboard.com/Other-Stuff-c3/For-Sale-f22/1998-buick-riviera-Black-on-Chrome-for-s-p1743.htm#1743

i've got 125k and i drive HARD in the city. i know mine will not last as long as some others b/c i dont scan as much as i should. but i am willing to put in another engine once this one dies (way cheaper than a new car)

_________________
1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP
AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily
Scanning vs. Engine Reliability Dsc_0110
Back to top Go down
AA
Administrator
AA


Name : Aaron
Age : 47
Location : C-bus, Ohio
Joined : 2007-01-14
Post Count : 18451
Merit : 252

Scanning vs. Engine Reliability Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scanning vs. Engine Reliability   Scanning vs. Engine Reliability EmptyFri Feb 16, 2007 11:10 pm

quote: "i know mine will not last as long as some others b/c i dont scan as much as i should."

I don't think you should worry that much. If you've scanned with your current set up, you know when your car knocks, and you know approx how much. Now you either fix the problem, or you drive appropriately. Our engines are very resiliant to moderate levels of knock. You have to push the envelope pretty often to do any damage.

Scanning often doesn't qualify as reg maintanence, imo. It isn't like giving your engine vitamins. You scan when you're testing new mods, tuning, changing variables such as gas, air temps, driving style, etc. If everything looked good last year, and it still looks good this year, there's no reason to think your engine is any worse off.

_________________
'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles
^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown
Back to top Go down
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/657082/4
Mr.Riviera
Expert
Mr.Riviera


Name : Matthew
Age : 37
Location : Florida
Joined : 2007-01-18
Post Count : 4394
Merit : 101

Scanning vs. Engine Reliability Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scanning vs. Engine Reliability   Scanning vs. Engine Reliability EmptyFri Feb 16, 2007 11:30 pm

tru but the temp changes so often its impossible to run 0 KR

_________________
1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP
AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily
Scanning vs. Engine Reliability Dsc_0110
Back to top Go down
AA
Administrator
AA


Name : Aaron
Age : 47
Location : C-bus, Ohio
Joined : 2007-01-14
Post Count : 18451
Merit : 252

Scanning vs. Engine Reliability Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scanning vs. Engine Reliability   Scanning vs. Engine Reliability EmptyFri Feb 16, 2007 11:49 pm

Zero is optimum, but very few cars (even stock) run with zero KR all the time. Only by tuning can you achieve that. 2-3º at WOT isn't the end of the world. Even brief spikes of 3-5º don't worry me too much. After all, KR is the PCM's response to knock. It tells you the computer is aware, and is doing its best to fix the problem.

It's those prolonged periods of 5º KR, or spikes of 8º or so that cause me concern. Some diehards will disagree, saying always zero all the time, but knock is a normal thing that happens in our engines, hopefully at low levels and only under extreme load. The reason it's good to shoot for zero KR is so when the temp changes, you'll have a buffer and don't have to worry. Maybe scan on a very hot day this summer and see where you stand? Your problem could be smaller than you think.

_________________
'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles
^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown
Back to top Go down
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/657082/4
Sponsored content





Scanning vs. Engine Reliability Empty
PostSubject: Re: Scanning vs. Engine Reliability   Scanning vs. Engine Reliability Empty

Back to top Go down
 
Scanning vs. Engine Reliability
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Newer Scanning Apps and Connections
» FAQ: How to tune the PCM? (Series II SC)
» LS1M scanning
» FAQ: Code / Scanning setup for the 1995 Riviera
» Write Up: Scanning and Datalogging Series I L67

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Riv Performance ::   Supercharged 3800 Tech :: Series II Scans, Tuning, PCM-
Jump to: