Very blue headlights

Well, as I said in my other post I was down in Orlando when the rice convention (HIN) was in town last Saturday. I saw a lot of cheap ass cars like Civics and Integras with some really really blue headlights. Now my question, are the ones these ricers are using HID or are they just very bright color toned bulbs? I'm not sure which I'd rather have because I've heard that some of the bulbs are very bright and I'd rather go that way since the HID requires extra installation and drain on the car when they're turned on.

I had seen them awhile back on a Neon as well and I thought HID kits were car specific so I was sure he didn't have HIDs but I'm not sure anymore. I don't know too much about these bulbs but I've heard of them rated at like 9000k. Now are those HID bulbs or just regular headlight bulbs that are extremely bright?

The HID's are easy to install on our car and only take extra drain during startup/warmup, otherwise they use less energy than standard halogens. Tinted bulbs are dangerous to use because they severely hinder visibility and useable light. Look for my writeup in the writeup section to see how easy it is to install the ballasts on the Riv.

I don't know if these were tinted or not, they were very bright. The one guy was in a Civic and he was next to some car with regular headlights and his were shining way out in the intersection and the other one wasn't very bright at all. Do you think he had HIDs or tinted bulbs?

I'm mainly talking about the bright flashing thing, I always double click mine back to flash someone with an okay or go ahead so I'd drain it too quickly.

The Eurolights I use are tinted Halogen, but they are also 80W power instead of 53W stock, so they burn hotter and brighter to compensate for the blue tint. $35 for a year's supply.

Would you mind taking a night picture of them on AA?

Shintsu wrote:

Would you mind taking a night picture of them on AA?

just buy a $70 ebay HID kit......... 10K you'll love them promise

And you're just using those Eurolights? Wow, that looks very blue to me but that's only at night time? HIDs are blueish all the time aren't they? If I were to order an HID kit do I have to buy two for $70 or just one? Btw Travis, isn't 10k and above illegal? 8k would be the most blue that is legal wouldn't it?

AA, did you order the Xenon-charged Blue/White Type 9006 or 9006XS (Or am I totally off all together)?

I forget, but it's somewhere in that thread. They are Xenon-charged, I know that much. They do look white-blue at night, but not as much as HID. Some HIDs look green or purple, too. I could never get into 'em.

I'm thinking of going with the 8000k HID bulbs (If I don't, I will go with what you're using for sure AA - I'm just not sure whats different between the 9006 and 9006XS), but there are so many cheesy looking HID kits on eBay. Is there not a refutable brand I can buy directly from a website? I did see one that said they used Hella but they didn't really say it anywhere else but in a paragraph.

Eurolights install in stock location. I can do both sides in 5 mins. You may have to remove part of the air box to do a stock vehicle.

Shintsu, look for the brand XenTec.

I only found one XenTec kit on ebay and it was the wrong bulb type. I didn't see anything in Google either but more of the wrong bulb types. Do they have an official website?

Shintsu wrote:

I'm thinking of going with the 8000k HID bulbs (If I don't, I will go with what you're using for sure AA - I'm just not sure whats different between the 9006 and 9006XS), but there are so many cheesy looking HID kits on eBay. Is there not a refutable brand I can buy directly from a website? I did see one that said they used Hella but they didn't really say it anywhere else but in a paragraph.

Hella ain't all that anyway.

The difference between 9006 and 9006XS is that the XS doesn't have the "L" turn at the connector. Stick with the 9006.

As far as what product to get on ebay, It's hard to say what you're going to get with so many sellers nowadays but my recomendation is to go with a seller that has at least a 1 year warranty. That strategy seems to have worked fine for me and better warranty doesn't necessarily mean more expensive in this case. I've installed probably 10 HID kits for people over the last 4 years, most of them in the last year and all but one bought from ebay vendors with no known problems yet.

8000k should look just a hair more blue than Aaron's eurolites. You will be pleased with them. They are a very popular choice.

Alright, thanks I think I've got an idea what to look for. A lot of these guys have low buy it now prices and high shipping to accommodate, what would you all say should be the total for a kit that includes a warranty of 1 year or more, both bulbs and ballasts after shipping?

To add: Do you all think 8000k is legal? I'm trying to match the kind of blue that cars like the Jaguar X Type come with and some of the BMWs: Not pure blue but a nice tint of blue mixed with white. I'm not sure how I'd find out if it's legal or not other than just driving down the road and seeing if a cop gives me crap for it. I just don't want plain white headlights, mine are already like that now.

The one's that BMW's have are 6000k at most, usually 4300k, very very white with no blue, and the glass bulb itself acts as a prism and that gives it the blued appearance. I'd go with 6000k if you want that slight blue look.

To officially state it, any retrofitted HID system, regardless of kelvin rating, is illegal. The 8000k is about the highest that I would call passable as factory equipment.

The other thing is that by having projector housings and electronic leveling beams, cars like BMW's and Jag's lights may appear to actually change color as they go over bumps and stuff. The lens has kind of a variable depth which is why the actual HID lamp is probably only about 5000k but you occasionally might see light that appears almost purple as the car is more distant from you or it goes over a bump. That same concept also explains why the color you see coming out of the lens looks blue but the light being projected on the road in front of the car is white as can be.

Yeah, after seeing that the lower Kelvin HIDs are brighter I think I'll go for the 6000ks maybe something inbetween 4300k and 6000k though. I just don't want bland old white. It may be brighter but dammit it isn't as cool looking!

Shintsu wrote:

Yeah, after seeing that the lower Kelvin HIDs are brighter I think I'll go for the 6000ks maybe something inbetween 4300k and 6000k though. I just don't want bland old white. It may be brighter but dammit it isn't as cool looking!

I wouldn't concern myself too much with brightness. I had the 30,000k in my riv and it still blew the stock lights away. Unless you seriously think that the stock lights just aren't good enough for your daily driving, it is about the badass factor anyway

Maybe not everyone thinks a riviera is interesting but I gaurentee everyone does when it has purple lights. I loved seeing everyone going as they go by me on the highway.

lol, 30,000k is pure violet! Heh, first cop that saw you would bust you so bad - I'm pretty sure they'd notice violet headlights! I had heard that as well though, so I'm now torn between 6,000k and 8,000k. I want it to look like one of the nice Euro cars that come with these kind of HIDs but I swear I've seen some that looked like the 8,000k. Does anyone by chance have a comparison scale mounted on a car of 6,000k vs 8,000k? I googled but didn't find much of anything useful.

What Kelvin is the blue bulb in your pic with the purple headlamp?

This pic is when I got the 10000k bulbs. I left one of the 30000k bulbs in for comparison. I'm sorry I don't have anything lower than 10000k in 9006 size to compare with.

Damn, that's really blue! Heh, why did you ever buy the 30,000ks?

Shintsu wrote:

Damn, that's really blue! Heh, why did you ever buy the 30,000ks?

Because they are just absurdly raw.
They look terrific warming up phasing through white and blue to purple. I think the only thing I don't like about them is that they are actually quite pink fully warmed up when I wanted a solid purple. Purple is pimp. Pink is straight up goofy. But I still have them for when I'm feelin foxy one night.