96RIVMANN Fanatic
Name : Paul Location : MN Joined : 2007-10-22 Post Count : 253 Merit : 11
| Subject: Sunroof drains? Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:57 pm | |
| I am wondering if there are any other sunroof drains on my '96 other than the two front ones? I am still trying to figure out where the water is coming in from in the back seat area? Thanks | |
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96RIVMANN Fanatic
Name : Paul Location : MN Joined : 2007-10-22 Post Count : 253 Merit : 11
| Subject: Re: Sunroof drains? Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:26 pm | |
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99Rivman Aficionado
Name : Randall Location : North Carolina Joined : 2007-01-16 Post Count : 2009 Merit : 90
| Subject: Re: Sunroof drains? Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:26 pm | |
| I was looking, I know on my '92 there are 4, one at each corner, see first pic below, but I didn't get as far taking apart my '95, second pic, so I can't say positively? On the '92 you can see where the hose comes off of the back corner of the sunroof pan and down the side, but with the interior, all except the headliner, removed on the '95 there are no hoses? This would tell me there are no drains on the back? I’ll check the Service Manual later if I get a chance and see if it lists anything. | |
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96RIVMANN Fanatic
Name : Paul Location : MN Joined : 2007-10-22 Post Count : 253 Merit : 11
| Subject: Re: Sunroof drains? Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:33 pm | |
| That's just it, my manual says that there are two in the rear but heck If I can find them? In the second picture could that be a drain running down behind the rear window? Could it be hidden in the pillar between the door and rear window behind the black piece? My factory '96 manual shows it running down behind the rear window. | |
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96RIVMANN Fanatic
Name : Paul Location : MN Joined : 2007-10-22 Post Count : 253 Merit : 11
| Subject: Re: Sunroof drains? Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:51 pm | |
| Word of advice, DO NOT BLOW COMPRESSED AIR THROUGH THE FRONT DRAIN LINES! I did and paid the price. How do I know, I used a syringe and shot some water down each one and had water leaking in through the headliner like crazy. I am not sure the air did it or not but don't do it. I had to pull the pillar cover and pry down the headliner to get access to the drain tube. Sure enough the hoses had come apart from both drains were they exit up by the sunroof. Now I have to get at the rear ones to make sure they are connected. I have a sneaky suspicion this it what is causing the water in the rear seat area. | |
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Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13 Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
| Subject: Sunroof Drains Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:27 pm | |
| It came up recently when someone new mentioned a gurgling noise seemingly coming from the Sunroof while it was raining out. Albert, I think you mentioned a possible fix for this but can't remember the details. I have the same problem and after driving almost 4 hours in the rain last night I want to finally do something about this. With the sunroof open you can clearly see drain holes on both sides of the sunroof channel. My initial thought was to use compressed air to blow through them and see if that clears it up. But I am cautious of doing that if the drain tubing is rubber and not secured well enough under the headliner, I may blow the rubber drain tubing off and then have a water leak that can only be repaired by removing the headliner. Has anyone had the headliner down and actually seen the make up of the drainage system. I have a pneumatic vacuum as well that I can reduce the size of the hose to possibly seal against the metal holes and suck up anything that might be causing this very loud and annoying gurgling. Anyone have any ideas, comments, experience, etc. Do I Suck or Blow or neither.? That is the question for today. | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8687 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: Sunroof drains? Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:54 pm | |
| Hie thee to a smoker's store and get some cheap pipe cleaners; make up a 'snake' by connecting them end to end to be about 40" long, then work them in and out of the drains until you clear them up.
The point is that it's only bits of leaves and other minor smarm and what not in the drains causing the problem, enough to slow up water but not much else.
The reason for using a pipe cleaner is it's stiff enough to do the job but not stiff enough to mess up your drains as compared to a straightened coat hanger - which one could use with some finesse but could maybe might possibly damage or detatch the drains.
There is a slight chance you'll knock a tube looose, they are accessible by removing the interior trim from the A pillars. Kind of a pain but not that tough.
There is also the chance that if you put Odo-Ban or another enzyme-type cleaner in the drains if the clog is organic and you can keep it moist, the enzymes will digest it in a couple days or so.
By the way did you notice people have not posted recently about musty HVAC odors? what's up with that?
Break's over
Albertj | |
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