Name : Timo Age : 38 Location : Finland Joined : 2008-10-04Post Count : 732 Merit : 24
Subject: Rebuild a Supercharger Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:59 pm
Sinse the wether as cone colder i have started to noticed more and more ratteling noise from the SC when i start the engine (when it's still cold) but when it warm's up the noise is cone. i readed from some topics that the problem is coupler? my car as 140k miles on it. the last owener told me that he changed the SC oil on summer and that the SC on my car was taken from a car what had 43k miles on it. but...anyways ...the last owner lied to me about some thing's...so i'm anyways not trusting or beliving anythign what he told me. just want to be sure that everything will be done perfectly now. So i was thinking if i will have to open the SC and change the coupler and oil. i started to shearch from ebay. and i found a rebuilding kit. GM V6 3800 3.8 supercharger nose COMPLETE Bearing Coupler rebuild kit.
Includes the following:
2 Bearings from a ISO certified plant rated equal or higher than OEM New High Strength Coupler (Not Pictured) 2 bottles of OEM Supercharger Oil (We use only the original oil that came in your supercharger) 1 tube of OEM aluminum red tube flange sealant. (we do not use a cheap sealer from a auto store in a blue tube) New PCV Valve and gasket (Not Pictured) Written installation instructions with phone support. New Oil Shaft Seal made from high temperature material New Oil Seal Snap Ring
Link
is this all what i need to rebuild series II riv's SC? are the price ok? cos i have no idea what those thing's relly cost in USA.
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Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
Subject: Re: Rebuild a Supercharger Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:15 pm
Timo,
You should know that replacing only the coupler is a lot easier than a complete rebuild. Also, the coupler is usually the reason for supercharger noise.
Replacing the coupler costs about $35 for the part, and can be done by removing the snout, but leaving SC pulley still attached. Takes about 1-2 hours.
Rebuilding the entire blower requires a bigger investment, and you must remove the snout and then pull the SC pulley off using a special tool. It is pressed on there pretty good!
Here is a write-up for a Series I blower. Series II is very much the same, but remember, you can do this with the blower remaining on the car:
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Name : mike Age : 34 Location : appleton wisconsin Joined : 2008-09-28Post Count : 437 Merit : 0
Subject: Re: Rebuild a Supercharger Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:25 pm
that sound that you are talking about at startup are you sure its not your intake? when I start up it sounds very loud because I have a "short ram" air intake. or do I need to replace the coupler too......
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Name : Timo Age : 38 Location : Finland Joined : 2008-10-04Post Count : 732 Merit : 24
Subject: Re: Rebuild a Supercharger Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:26 pm
here it is...thats the sound..
not so good as irl
actualy now i remember since when did the sound start to come..when the engine was cold. when i had the stock airbox on...i think it mufflered the sound. after taking the stock airbox off and replacing it whti the K&N filter then the intake sound's cone louder and same did the ratteling sound on starting the cold engine.
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Name : Andrew Age : 40 Location : Ontario, Canada Joined : 2008-01-14Post Count : 1949 Merit : 123
Subject: Re: Rebuild a Supercharger Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:42 pm
good way to zero in on the coupler is to take a paper towel tube to your ear and the other at the supercharger shout. the vid sounds like the coupler to me.
heres a way to change the coupler without taking the supercharger off the engine, though it will pour a bit of SC oil on the belt area, so make sure to clean it up well again. also the vid doent mention using any sealant on the nosecone, use red gasket maker with the tinyest line you can on the mating surface(which should be CLEAN). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSsSctYvOoI
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Subject: Re: Rebuild a Supercharger Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:02 pm
You can tell if the coupler is worn by removing the supercharger belt and moving the pulley back and forth. If it feels loose, you will need to change the coupler.
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Name : Bert Location : North Alabama Joined : 2008-02-03Post Count : 1701 Merit : 32
Subject: Re: Rebuild a Supercharger Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:28 pm
After you have driven the car for a while and got it warmed up good. Shut the engine off and feel of center portion of the tensioner pulleys and idler pulleys to see if they are real hot which would indicate impending failure. Just a suggestion so you can make sure its not one of them making the racket.
Have you removed the SC belt and felt of the play in the coupler to determine if the coupler is worn?
Bert
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Name : Timo Age : 38 Location : Finland Joined : 2008-10-04Post Count : 732 Merit : 24
Subject: Re: Rebuild a Supercharger Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:32 am
ibmoses wrote:
After you have driven the car for a while and got it warmed up good. Shut the engine off and feel of center portion of the tensioner pulleys and idler pulleys to see if they are real hot which would indicate impending failure. Just a suggestion so you can make sure its not one of them making the racket.
Have you removed the SC belt and felt of the play in the coupler to determine if the coupler is worn?
Bert
i have not removed anythign so far...i'm far from home...going back to finland on 14januar. i'm atm on my wacation lol. when i get back to fin i go to unos garage and fix it there. but thanks again everyone for those tips
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Name : Bert Location : North Alabama Joined : 2008-02-03Post Count : 1701 Merit : 32
Subject: Re: Rebuild a Supercharger Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:58 am
If its a tensioner pulley or a idler pulley it might not make it back before it grenades. You can feel of them and see if the bearing is getting real hot.