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brettfavreisamonster Amateur
Name : Huynh Location : LB, CA Joined : 2014-01-17 Post Count : 25 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:33 pm | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:40 pm | |
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Oldschool79 Special
Name : Oldschool79 Location : ILLINOIS Joined : 2016-03-11 Post Count : 3 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:42 pm | |
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Oldschool79 Special
Name : Oldschool79 Location : ILLINOIS Joined : 2016-03-11 Post Count : 3 Merit : 0
| Subject: will ready struts for a 98 fit a 97 ?? help Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:49 pm | |
| Good afternoon. I am new to the site and am trying to get the hang of it. I am the proud owner of a 1997 Riviera with 62,000 original miles. I have a question about the Front struts. I have been up and down the Internet trying to find ready struts for my 97 . No dice. Dose anyone know where I can get a set of ready struts for my 97? 2nd question will the struts from a 98 Riviera work on a 97? What is the difference between 97 and 98-99 struts? Thanks for your time! | |
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LARRY70GS Aficionado
Name : Larry Age : 68 Location : Oakland Gardens, NY Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 2193 Merit : 150
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:19 pm | |
| The strut mount on the 97 has different attachment spacing than the 98-99. In addition, the 98-99 uses bolts where the 97 uses nuts. The mount actually has studs. It's a shame because the loaded struts make the job so quick and easy. _________________ 98 Riviera SC3800 All stock except gutted air box. 1970 Buick GS455 Stage1, TSP built 470BBB, 602HP/589TQ Best MPH, 116.06 MPH, Best ET, 11.54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHCda-t_Jls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfT2tEO4XcU
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Oldschool79 Special
Name : Oldschool79 Location : ILLINOIS Joined : 2016-03-11 Post Count : 3 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:03 pm | |
| Thanks for the information Larry70GS . I guess I have the odd year Riviera. Would you happen to know any other problems or difference with the 97 that would be helpful? Have a great day - LARRY70GS wrote:
- The strut mount on the 97 has different attachment spacing than the 98-99. In addition, the 98-99 uses bolts where the 97 uses nuts. The mount actually has studs. It's a shame because the loaded struts make the job so quick and easy.
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LARRY70GS Aficionado
Name : Larry Age : 68 Location : Oakland Gardens, NY Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 2193 Merit : 150
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:18 pm | |
| _________________ 98 Riviera SC3800 All stock except gutted air box. 1970 Buick GS455 Stage1, TSP built 470BBB, 602HP/589TQ Best MPH, 116.06 MPH, Best ET, 11.54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHCda-t_Jls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfT2tEO4XcU
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brettfavreisamonster Amateur
Name : Huynh Location : LB, CA Joined : 2014-01-17 Post Count : 25 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:44 am | |
| - Oldschool79 wrote:
- Good afternoon. I am new to the site and am trying to get the hang of it. I am the proud owner of a 1997 Riviera with 62,000 original miles. I have a question about the Front struts. I have been up and down the Internet trying to find ready struts for my 97 . No dice. Dose anyone know where I can get a set of ready struts for my 97? 2nd question will the struts from a 98 Riviera work on a 97? What is the difference between 97 and 98-99 struts? Thanks for your time!
no ready struts for the 97'. rockauto.com has good prices on struts, plus there are rebates right now for kyb and monroe and other struts and rear shocks. | |
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skatterbrane Enthusiast
Name : Rod Age : 68 Joined : 2014-03-25 Post Count : 104 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:29 pm | |
| Okay. I have read through a lot of this thread. I will have a 1996 Riviera soon (probably). I want to make it STIFFER. I already have my choice for the rear shocks. It seems that Gabriel Readymounts would be my choice for the front. I understand Pontiac Bonneville struts will fit well. Now my question:
What is the Gabriel part number for the Gabriel readymounts that will fit my 96 Riv? Thank you. | |
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LARRY70GS Aficionado
Name : Larry Age : 68 Location : Oakland Gardens, NY Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 2193 Merit : 150
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:52 pm | |
| There are no ready struts for the 96. You can buy all the parts you need to transfer your coil spring to new struts. The Addco sway bars will do wonders for the handling without destroying the ride. _________________ 98 Riviera SC3800 All stock except gutted air box. 1970 Buick GS455 Stage1, TSP built 470BBB, 602HP/589TQ Best MPH, 116.06 MPH, Best ET, 11.54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHCda-t_Jls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfT2tEO4XcU
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skatterbrane Enthusiast
Name : Rod Age : 68 Joined : 2014-03-25 Post Count : 104 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:57 pm | |
| So I guess the Bonneville ready struts are for 98 and 99 only? Then KYB would be the way to go to get fully loaded strut assemblies for my 96? I replaced struts on a 1996 DeVille using individual parts ONCE. I would like to avoid ever doing that again. I am hoping there is a complete strut assembly for my 96. And if it sits a bit higher that is okay. If it is a LOT stiffer, that would be great! | |
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skatterbrane Enthusiast
Name : Rod Age : 68 Joined : 2014-03-25 Post Count : 104 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:01 pm | |
| I am going with the Monroe 90007's in the back. I have them on both of my 94 Roadmasters where I disabled the working air adjust system, and I MUCH prefer the spring overload shocks. I also put Monroe Severe Duty shocks in the front and my Roadies are a lot more "sporty" than I thought possible. Definitely not a floaty boat ride anymore! | |
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LARRY70GS Aficionado
Name : Larry Age : 68 Location : Oakland Gardens, NY Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 2193 Merit : 150
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:02 pm | |
| - skatterbrane wrote:
- So I guess the Bonneville ready struts are for 98 and 99 only? Then KYB would be the way to go to get fully loaded strut assemblies for my 96? I replaced struts on a 1996 DeVille using individual parts ONCE. I would like to avoid ever doing that again. I am hoping there is a complete strut assembly for my 96. And if it sits a bit higher that is okay. If it is a LOT stiffer, that would be great!
When I look up a 1996 Buick Riviera on www.rockauto.com, I only see individual components, http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/buick,1996,riviera,3.8l+v6+supercharged,1022038,suspension,strut,7584 I only see the ready struts for the 98-99, http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/buick,1998,riviera,3.8l+v6+supercharged,1303322,suspension,strut+/+coil+spring+/+mount+assembly,15174 _________________ 98 Riviera SC3800 All stock except gutted air box. 1970 Buick GS455 Stage1, TSP built 470BBB, 602HP/589TQ Best MPH, 116.06 MPH, Best ET, 11.54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHCda-t_Jls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfT2tEO4XcU
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skatterbrane Enthusiast
Name : Rod Age : 68 Joined : 2014-03-25 Post Count : 104 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:08 pm | |
| Maybe this is the way to go?:
http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/suspension.jsp?&make=KYB&model=Strut-Plus+Assembly&group=Strut-Plus+Assembly&autoMake=Buick&autoModel=Riviera&autoYear=1996&autoModClar=&partNum=SR4022&perfCode=P | |
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LARRY70GS Aficionado
Name : Larry Age : 68 Location : Oakland Gardens, NY Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 2193 Merit : 150
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:15 pm | |
| - skatterbrane wrote:
- Maybe this is the way to go?
It says this product is NOT AVAILABLE for your 1996 Buick Riviera. _________________ 98 Riviera SC3800 All stock except gutted air box. 1970 Buick GS455 Stage1, TSP built 470BBB, 602HP/589TQ Best MPH, 116.06 MPH, Best ET, 11.54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHCda-t_Jls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfT2tEO4XcU
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skatterbrane Enthusiast
Name : Rod Age : 68 Joined : 2014-03-25 Post Count : 104 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:19 pm | |
| Ah yeah. I see it now. Thanks. I will have to do it the hard way I guess. | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8687 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:42 pm | |
| - skatterbrane wrote:
- Ah yeah. I see it now. Thanks. I will have to do it the hard way I guess.
I wonder if you phone in the order instead of ordering on-line, if Rock Auto would make up a parts kit for you (in lieu of ready struts) and lop a few bucks off. | |
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jbird Fanatic
Name : Jeff Location : Cleveland area Joined : 2013-11-11 Post Count : 368 Merit : 7
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:54 pm | |
| I had the KYBs installed with my stock springs on my 96. I was happy with my ride height & didn't want to change it. When I had quickstruts put on my Regal the front end sat up too high. I have seen others on here with the same issue. You might be better off that the kits are not available. Jbird | |
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skatterbrane Enthusiast
Name : Rod Age : 68 Joined : 2014-03-25 Post Count : 104 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:23 pm | |
| It looks like the actual strut is the same between a 1996 Riviera and the mid to late 90s Bonnevilles. It is the mounting kit that differs. Tell me if I am wrong. I could get any brand that offers an assembled strut for the Bonneville and simply buy a separate mounting kit for a 96 Riviera. This way I could switch out the top part of the assembly and be ready to R&R the complete assemblies. If this is true, it would be worth a few extra bucks for the separate mounting kit to made an easier task out of this. | |
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Abaddon Expert
Name : Scott Location : Macomb, Michigan Joined : 2010-02-24 Post Count : 4316 Merit : 185
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:50 pm | |
| - skatterbrane wrote:
- It looks like the actual strut is the same between a 1996 Riviera and the mid to late 90s Bonnevilles. It is the mounting kit that differs. Tell me if I am wrong. I could get any brand that offers an assembled strut for the Bonneville and simply buy a separate mounting kit for a 96 Riviera. This way I could switch out the top part of the assembly and be ready to R&R the complete assemblies. If this is true, it would be worth a few extra bucks for the separate mounting kit to made an easier task out of this.
That's probably correct. Change the upper mount/bearing assembly and it'll probably work. Without doing so personally, I can't guarantee it though. Just make sure you install the mount facing the proper direction. If you don't, you'll blow out the bearings in a week. So I'd take out the original struts and make note of the bearing seat orientation. It's on an angle, and needs to be installed the same way. https://rivperformance.editboard.com/t11630-proper-front-strut-bearing-installation?highlight=strut | |
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skatterbrane Enthusiast
Name : Rod Age : 68 Joined : 2014-03-25 Post Count : 104 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:00 pm | |
| Thank you for the tip. If this works, it would seem to be an easy solution for those who do not want to either reuse their old springs and/or for those who do not want to buy all the parts needed separately. The cost would probably be pretty close between buying ALL the parts separately versus buying "Readymount", "Quick-Strut", or "KYB Complete Corner Unit" and the year specific Riviera mounting kit. Heck, why didn't I think of that? | |
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skatterbrane Enthusiast
Name : Rod Age : 68 Joined : 2014-03-25 Post Count : 104 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:01 pm | |
| So, going through this tread it seems the Gabriels are the most stiff, agreed? | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8687 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:45 pm | |
| - skatterbrane wrote:
- So, going through this tread it seems the Gabriels are the most stiff, agreed?
In my experience they were BUT I am hearing good things about Monroe OE SPECTRUM struts. | |
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skatterbrane Enthusiast
Name : Rod Age : 68 Joined : 2014-03-25 Post Count : 104 Merit : 3
| Subject: Load assist shocks. Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:11 pm | |
| I installed new Monroe MA822 Max-Air shocks (the originals were blown). And everything works just as it should. My 4 Auroras had the same setup, and one of my 94 Roadmasters has air level ride, and it worked perfectly too. However I installed coil-over load assist shocks on that Roadmaster, (my non-air level shock equipped Roadmaster has them too) and I like the ride MUCH better. I also had a 94 Fleetwood with the air pump shocks and replaced them with the load assists. I guess I just prefer a slightly stiffer ride and a slight rake (I always try to adjust the air assist system at max lift, but it isn't quite enough for my tastes).
Based on that I am going to install Monroe 90007 load assist shocks on my Riviera when the order arrives. I think it will give the car a less "dumpy" look and give me a tad more firmness that I have experienced on my other cars. Too bad Monroe does not make a Severe Duty strut like they do the front shocks I put on my Roadmasters and had on my Fleetwood.
I do not like when I hit a bump and the shock or strut goes past center more than once. I want it to either go up and return to rest or down and return to rest but never up and down or down and up and then return to rest. Just like tennis, one bounce is all you get with me!
Back when I had various 1964-1972 GM B-bodied cars, I would find a truck shock that would fit (sometimes I had to make the lower control arm shock access hole larger to accommodate). It took all I had to jump on the front of the car to get the shocks to compress at all. That's the way, uh-huh, uh-huh I like it. Oh I miss those Skylarks, LeMans, Cutlasses and Malibus! They were so easy to improve the handling on. | |
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skatterbrane Enthusiast
Name : Rod Age : 68 Joined : 2014-03-25 Post Count : 104 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Shocks & Struts Options Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:45 am | |
| Oh yeah! The Monroe 90007 load assist shocks are the ticket! | |
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