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95ParkAveUltra Member
Joined : 2009-01-26 Post Count : 68 Merit : 0
| Subject: park ave brakes & suspension? Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:08 pm | |
| i think i have an h body but wasnt sure. was reading up on f body brake upgrades. was wondering if theres any for my car. calipers rotors anything? | |
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Ash Enthusiast
Name : Marty Age : 46 Location : S. Central Indiana Joined : 2008-05-21 Post Count : 116 Merit : 4
| Subject: Re: park ave brakes & suspension? Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:12 pm | |
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_Park_Avenue[/url] | |
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95ParkAveUltra Member
Joined : 2009-01-26 Post Count : 68 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: park ave brakes & suspension? Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:01 pm | |
| lol i actually read that page when i first got the car but didnt realize it said c body. so back to my original question. is there any brake mods i can do to the C BODY? | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: park ave brakes & suspension? Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:43 pm | |
| body style doesnt really matter when it comes to brake or engine mods. we are a G-body that can do the same brake upgrade as the W-body cars, and the brakes themselves are off of a F-body (duh).
take a look and compare part numbers for your lower spindles to a 98 riv or 98 regal to see if they are the same.
more than likely your caliper brackets are welded to the lower knuckles making any caliper upgrade impossible without replacing the spindles too. (but the struts dont match up either, so those will need to be swapped out too. ...and the top mounts are different.)
so to be able to do a fbody upgrade on your park ave you will need to do major part comparisons to see if you can even swap out your spindles and suspension with that of another car. _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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arttu80 Member
Age : 44 Location : Finland Joined : 2007-08-02 Post Count : 80 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: park ave brakes & suspension? Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:08 pm | |
| Well, front calipers in PA Ultra are same for all 1994-1997 Camaros (including Z28),so I think you can use brake upgrades inteded for these cars. Ofcourse you couldn't use Camaro rotors, because of wheel lug pattern is 5x4,75" and yours is 5x115mm, but I think there's crossdrilled rotors on eBay for PA... I do have 1994 PA Ultra myself, and my only concerns are way too soft suspension and speed limiter at about 170Kph (is it 110Mph). This thing accelerates like a beast, brakes pretty well, but is frustrating at corners. Oh, maybe it just my 15" wheels with tall tires.. | |
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95ParkAveUltra Member
Joined : 2009-01-26 Post Count : 68 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: park ave brakes & suspension? Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:40 am | |
| - arttu80 wrote:
- Well, front calipers in PA Ultra are same for all 1994-1997 Camaros (including Z28),so I think you can use brake upgrades inteded for these cars. Ofcourse you couldn't use Camaro rotors, because of wheel lug pattern is 5x4,75" and yours is 5x115mm, but I think there's crossdrilled rotors on eBay for PA...
well i went of autozone to compare brakes between the camaro and my PA. when i checked part numbers on rotors, they were the same. so the bolt pattern for a 95 camaro and 95 PA are the same. or am i missing something? so just for fun i went to wilwoods website to look at brake upgrades. for the 95 camaro. ( http://info.wilwood.com/BrakeKitsProd.aspx?itemno=140-6743 ) they had a big brake upgrade kit. (what kinda space am i limited to with stock rims) pretty damn sweet. would like someone with some knowledge about these kinds of things to take a look and let me know if it would work or point me in a different direction. thanx | |
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arttu80 Member
Age : 44 Location : Finland Joined : 2007-08-02 Post Count : 80 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: park ave brakes & suspension? Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:28 pm | |
| I'm confused about wheel pattern, because as you mentioned the rotor P/N:s are same for PA and Camaro of 1995 model year, but if you check wheelmarket, for example here---> http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Chevrolet___Vehicle_Bolt_Pattern_Reference.cfm and there -----> http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Buick___Vehicle_Bolt_Pattern_Reference.cfm you'll notice, that Camaro have standard GM RWD bolt pattern of 5X120.7 and PA is standard GM FWD pattern of 5X115, so it's misleading?? | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: park ave brakes & suspension? Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:04 pm | |
| a rotor's holes are much larger than the lug bolts so that 1 rotor can fit several different cars with different bolt patterns. gm parts bin FTW (although all companies do this)
that is another reason it is important to put lug nuts on in a star pattern and tighten evenly. otherwise the rotor can become off center and warp. _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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97 park ave Addict
Name : Tyler Age : 34 Location : MN Joined : 2009-03-06 Post Count : 669 Merit : 21
| Subject: park ave suspension Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:18 pm | |
| hi guys im new to the board and i have a park ave. from my understanding the park avenue is a C body and the riviera is a G body, now my question is: are the suspension components on both cars similar in any way? will the eibach pro kit for a sts work on my park ave like it does for the rivs?
any help is appreciated cause id love to stiffen the suspension | |
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Buickman104 Enthusiast
Age : 38 Location : New York City Joined : 2007-11-29 Post Count : 156 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: park ave brakes & suspension? Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:23 pm | |
| The C body and G bodies are completely different.
Their suspensions are also completely different. In the sense of Mods a C body is a stretched out H body. So their suspension components are transferable, but nothing is compatible between the G and C bodies. | |
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97 park ave Addict
Name : Tyler Age : 34 Location : MN Joined : 2009-03-06 Post Count : 669 Merit : 21
| Subject: Re: park ave brakes & suspension? Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:00 pm | |
| - Buickman104 wrote:
- The C body and G bodies are completely different.
Their suspensions are also completely different. In the sense of Mods a C body is a stretched out H body. So their suspension components are transferable, but nothing is compatible between the G and C bodies. so the cadillac sts eibach pro kit wont work with my park ave? | |
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