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Snowdog Addict
Name : Timo Age : 38 Location : Finland Joined : 2008-10-04 Post Count : 732 Merit : 24
| Subject: Transmission oil Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:05 am | |
| what type of transmission oil dos the riv need? I guessed that it's atf...but...don't know the viscosity. defently may depend of the temperature of the place where the car is driven. or i may be wrong. so i want to know what's the original transmission oil what is used on riv? and what's the best. i live in place where the temperature is from MAX 30C(86F) on summer and MAX -28C(-18,4F) on winter. | |
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1995 Riv Enthusiast
Name : Don Location : Cols OH Joined : 2008-11-09 Post Count : 160 Merit : 1
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:03 pm | |
| 1995 Spec DEXRON-III or DEXRON-IIE or equivalent. | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8682 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:41 pm | |
| Dexron is a brand name.
GM says Dexron-VI is the replacement for Dexron-III.
I do not think your temperature range is a problem for either fluid, given that transmission operating temperatures will reach ~100C routinely.
You say they do not know which fluid will work? What fluids do they sell?
Albertj
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zombiesarebad Member
Name : Brian Age : 41 Location : Maine Joined : 2007-12-04 Post Count : 97 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:03 am | |
| Dexron III is what you want, outside temperature isn't really a factor. DexIII has been superseded by Dexron VI which you can use if you want to spend the extra cash. Just to avoid confusion: if you go for the III the bottle will probably say "Mercon/Dexron III" (in case you didn't know). | |
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99prixgt Member
Name : Erik Age : 37 Location : NJ Joined : 2009-01-27 Post Count : 90 Merit : 2
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:26 am | |
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Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3174 Merit : 104
| Subject: Transmission Fluid Survey... Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:51 pm | |
| Hey guys,
When I figure out how to get my hands down along the radiator tank I'm going to add an external tranny fluid cooler to my Riv. Afterward, I'll want to change the fluid & filter...
I (and I'm sure others) would like to know what experience anyone has had with:
-Synthetic fluids like Schaffer or Amsoil
-Dexron VI (6)
-Good ol' Type F
I've seen one good reference to Dex 6, a couple of ecstatic references for Amsoil, and in my own Turbo 325, 350 and 400's I've always had good luck with Type F...
Many thanks in advance for your input, Mark | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:45 pm | |
| I like to change my transmission fluid/filter annually, so I don't bother with synthetics. Too expensive. I started out using Mobil1 fully synthetic ATF and liked it, but there is really no gain when you change it frequently.
I also got a drain plug at NAPA for $5 or so, drilled a hole in the pan and put the drain plug in to make my fluid changes much less messy. Highly recommended! | |
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Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3174 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:35 am | |
| - deekster_caddy wrote:
- I like to change my transmission fluid/filter annually, so I don't bother with synthetics. Too expensive. I started out using Mobil1 fully synthetic ATF and liked it, but there is really no gain when you change it frequently.
I also got a drain plug at NAPA for $5 or so, drilled a hole in the pan and put the drain plug in to make my fluid changes much less messy. Highly recommended! I totally agree about the drain plug, been doing it for years. Especially good for rapid changes to really change ALL of the fluid if you can't find a shop with a "1 in, 1 out" flushing machine... One of the advantages of synthetics, though, is longer drain periods, which negates the cost (theoretically). Did you notice any improvements in upshifting/downshifting/engagement from Park with the Mobil 1? | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:14 am | |
| - Eldo wrote:
- Did you notice any improvements in upshifting/downshifting/engagement from Park with the Mobil 1?
No, I couldn't observe any performance difference at all. | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:24 am | |
| might want to take a look at your front and rear trans mounts if the car hits hard into R or into P. a DIY poly front mount fixed my shifting problem. but it is good maint to drop the pan once in awhile and then top it off. | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8682 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:41 am | |
| For my money I'd use Dexron VI. Had the dealer "1 in 1 out" powerflush and fill my tranny with it, nice stuff. I bet Mobil1's pretty good too.
Albertj | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18451 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:17 pm | |
| Dex VI for me once per year (~25k miles) | |
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Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3174 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:31 pm | |
| - Mr.Riviera wrote:
- might want to take a look at your front and rear trans mounts if the car hits hard into R or into P.
a DIY poly front mount fixed my shifting problem. Thanks, but I have the opposite problem: I can mix a Manhatten by the time the tranny engages Drive, maybe a margarita by the time it goes into Reverse I was really surprised that this 4T65 is so much sloppier than the 4T60 in our LeSabre... And is actually slower to engage than the Turbo 325 in my old Eldorado. Evidently there is a poorly chosen aluminum sleeve/spool on a pair of pressure valves in the valve body. I completely flushed it with new Dexron when I bought the car in 2005, but I'm seriously thinking about putting Type F in it... | |
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manofmany Addict
Name : manofmany Age : 40 Joined : 2008-07-26 Post Count : 611 Merit : 5
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:43 pm | |
| Reverse also engages rather slowly for me as well, about the same as my old Seville STS | |
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Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3174 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Fri May 22, 2009 6:16 pm | |
| So no one has used Type F in one of these trannies, huh? | |
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Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13 Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Fri May 22, 2009 8:04 pm | |
| I haven't, what positives would type F exhibit? | |
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Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3174 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Fri May 22, 2009 8:07 pm | |
| - Rickw wrote:
- I haven't, what positives would type F exhibit?
I've always used it in my Turbo 350's and 400's because it has better friction qualities than Dexron... firmer, less slippery shifts. | |
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Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13 Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Fri May 22, 2009 8:08 pm | |
| Interesting, I didn't know that. Learn something new every day....Hopefully! | |
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95rivy Enthusiast
Name : curt Location : upstate ny Joined : 2009-04-04 Post Count : 189 Merit : 3
| Subject: tranny fluid change Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:12 pm | |
| So i finally got around to changing the tranny fluid..long over due. I filled it with dexron VI and also changed out the vacuum module. Man this thing shift great, what a difference. Now i see i have some bad motor mounts, i always thought it was the tranny, go figure right. | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8682 Merit : 181
| Subject: temp Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:10 pm | |
| I gave up telling people how much a difference Dex VI makes. If you're changing the fluid it's worth at least considering doing the fill with VI.
Albertj
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Tranny fluid Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:12 pm | |
| Hi people. I cant find stright Mercon tranny fluid at my local. I brought it up and the counter guy sez whats on the shelves is all they will have from now on .Which fluid do you guys use now? | |
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LARRY70GS Aficionado
Name : Larry Age : 68 Location : Oakland Gardens, NY Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 2193 Merit : 150
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:51 pm | |
| You could get it online Robo
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM2039739201P?sid=IDx20101019x00001a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=SPM2039739201
http://www.diesel-filters.com/xt-6-qsp-motorcraft-mercon-sp-automatic-transmission-fluid-quart.html | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:13 pm | |
| wow.Is that what you use? are their any more modern alternatives?
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18451 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:28 pm | |
| Dexron VI for me. Pricey, but I personally believe it's the best. | |
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LARRY70GS Aficionado
Name : Larry Age : 68 Location : Oakland Gardens, NY Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 2193 Merit : 150
| Subject: Re: Transmission Fluid Survey... Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:30 pm | |
| - robotennis61 wrote:
- wow.Is that what you use? are their any more modern alternatives?
No, I use this: http://www.valvoline.com/products/brands/maxlife/automatic-transmission-fluid/37 But you asked for Mercon. I always thought Dexron and Mercon were the same thing. | |
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