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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptySat Oct 03, 2009 3:16 pm

Thanks for the info.
And you knew more about the problem than you first posted.!!!!!!
Or, more than I knew.
Kudo's to you and I apologize for being rude earlier.
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptySat Oct 03, 2009 5:00 pm

sanger wrote:
Took the panel off this morning but did'nt see any fuses....Wondering if Albertj could be correct with it being the clockspring. Thanks for the input.

Well, he could be right about that. I admit that I thought the clockspring (or Module Coil) was only used for the air bag because of it's importance and split second timing, while everything else still used brushes & rings...

However, I think you should get under the dash again with better light, because he's definitely right about the location of the fuse I wrote about. I just looked under my dash, and it's right there to the left of the column... It isn't, though, very easy to spot because it doesn't look like a typical fuse holder. The 2 amp fuse is a dark, murky color and the fuse holder itself is actually wrapped in dark gray foam, which in turn is wrapped in a white paper band that says "2 Amp" (if you have your specs on wink) It makes for a package that looks more like a relay or a buzzer...

If and when you have to go deeper into the column, don't forget air bag safety: pull the airbag fuse in the IP fuse box, give it a half hour, and then disconnect the yellow 2-wire connector that is near that fuse at the bottom of the column.

Mark

(And thanks to whoever hit the '+' for me... heart )
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptySat Oct 03, 2009 5:29 pm

Thank's for the description of the fuse I'll pull the panel again, would much rather it be a fuse!!
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptySun Oct 11, 2009 5:20 pm

To quote Ted Knight in Caddyshack:

"Wellllll? We're WAITING!!!"


Whahappn?
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 12, 2009 9:27 pm

Took the panel off and looked again.....still could'nt locate the fuse. Is it possible a "95" does'nt have it ?
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 12, 2009 9:33 pm

i keep telling everyone that its that damn dabby doober! will no one listen?
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 13, 2009 12:24 am

sanger wrote:
Took the panel off and looked again.....still could'nt locate the fuse. Is it possible a "95" does'nt have it ?

Quite possible... Alas, I can't research the specifics for a '95. You'll need to start watching eBay for a Factory Service/Shop Manual. As everyone on here will agree, it's an excellent investment.

Good luck,
Mark
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 13, 2009 3:58 pm

I do have a Factory Service/Shop Manual for the "95" and could'nt find anything about the 2 amp fuse. Still I was hoping I missed it....Thanks again.
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 13, 2009 4:02 pm

Thanks again for everybody's help.
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 13, 2009 6:49 pm

sanger wrote:
I do have a Factory Service/Shop Manual for the "95" and could'nt find anything about the 2 amp fuse. Still I was hoping I missed it....Thanks again.

Oh, sorry about that. And now, a little late on the uptake, something else just dawned on me:
IIRC, the radio decodes the signal from the steering wheel switches, and then sends any Temp inputs on to the Climate Control... The '95s have a different CC and a different radio, so it stands to reason that the whole bloody system is different!
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PostSubject: No radio power/steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyTue Mar 08, 2011 2:40 pm

I just bought a 98 Riviera with the airbags blown. I noticed that the stock head unit does not power on and the temp controls on the steering wheel do not work. The prev. owner said the radio and wheel controls worked before the accident. Did the airbag do something to the wheel controls that would make the radio not work anymore?
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyTue Mar 08, 2011 7:16 pm

it is possible the wires inside of the steering wheel are very small and that violent of a shock could have pulled a couple of the wires off, it isn't that hard to check you just have to take the airbag out of the steering wheel and check the wires, there are four all together two for the temp and two for the radio.
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyTue Mar 08, 2011 7:58 pm

black shadow wrote:
it is possible the wires inside of the steering wheel are very small and that violent of a shock could have pulled a couple of the wires off, it isn't that hard to check you just have to take the airbag out of the steering wheel and check the wires, there are four all together two for the temp and two for the radio.

Do you think that In addition it's possible the airbag detonation affected the clockspring?
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 09, 2011 7:43 am

I am sure it is possible but not very likely, my air bag went of in my car and it didn't do anything to the steering wheel accessories but I did have to find the arming control box for the airbags which wasn't easy and had to replace that but that shouldn't have anything to do with the radio, I would start with taking the airbag off and check the wires there and then go on to the clock spring. I had to replace both of the airbags and all of the sensors plus the arming switch
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 09, 2011 7:48 am

and also the clock-spring and the steering wheel controls have nothing to do with the head unit not powering on so you might want to check the fuses for the radio or maybe the radio got banged when the car got banged, those radios aren't the best
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 09, 2011 11:56 am

I'll take a closer look and see if anything might have came loose. Of course there is always the possibility that the previous owner was lying about it working before...
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 09, 2011 2:27 pm

missysriviera wrote:
I just bought a 98 Riviera with the airbags blown. I noticed that the stock head unit does not power on and the temp controls on the steering wheel do not work. The prev. owner said the radio and wheel controls worked before the accident. Did the airbag do something to the wheel controls that would make the radio not work anymore?

also, do you think it's a good idea to tell us why the airbags are blown?
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 09, 2011 3:50 pm

[quote="albertj"]
missysriviera wrote:
I just bought a 98 Riviera with the airbags blown. I noticed that the stock head unit does not power on and the temp controls on the steering wheel do not work. The prev. owner said the radio and wheel controls worked before the accident. Did the airbag do something to the wheel controls that would make the radio not work anymore?

also, do you think it's a good idea to tell us why the airbags are blown?[/qu

that would be a good idea to
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 10, 2011 1:49 pm

It was involved in a low speed front end collision.
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 10, 2011 5:28 pm

Looks like takin' apart the dash to see what else has been affected by the collision might be a good idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 10, 2011 5:45 pm

black shadow wrote:
and also the clock-spring and the steering wheel controls have nothing to do with the head unit not powering on so you might want to check the fuses for the radio or maybe the radio got banged when the car got banged, those radios aren't the best

Walter is correct (+)... I think the very first question should be: Does the clock work?
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PostSubject: Re: Steering wheel controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 10, 2011 6:42 pm

how far along are you in putting the wrecked car back together? I went threw the same thing with my car, I bought it wrecked, the guy hit a dear with it and popped the air bags and he couldn't sell it bc everyone was scared of the airbags so I got it cheep and then bought a car with a blown motor for parts and put the wrecked car back together so if there is any ? about fixing a problem don't hesitate to ask.
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PostSubject: fixed radio and steering controls   Steering wheel controls - Page 2 EmptyTue Jan 24, 2012 11:22 am

missysriviera wrote:
I just bought a 98 Riviera with the airbags blown. I noticed that the stock head unit does not power on and the temp controls on the steering wheel do not work. The prev. owner said the radio and wheel controls worked before the accident. Did the airbag do something to the wheel controls that would make the radio not work anymore?

Just remove radio and unplug it. Then plug it back in should fix this problem.
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