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PostSubject: Re: crank/no start after rain. resolved - CKPS   crank/no start after rain. resolved - CKPS - Page 2 EmptySat Feb 27, 2010 3:43 pm

Add those to the Database of "Junk out of the Box".
It certainly had to be more than one wire if it caused a no start situation in the rain. Multiple wires if not all were weak.
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PostSubject: Re: crank/no start after rain. resolved - CKPS   crank/no start after rain. resolved - CKPS - Page 2 EmptySat Feb 27, 2010 10:41 pm

jonly wrote:
albertj wrote:
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no the new plugwires did it, I'm sure. thanks for your help

So let me get this straight...

..you had plug wires that were bad *new* - and whose make were they?

Albertj

Autolite professional series
OK

If they were like a set I had on a Dodge I used to own, there was probably a problem with one of the wire termianls. The ones I had, had brass terminals at the sparkplug ends and on both ends of the colil wire (was a dist/points ignition) and stainless terminals at the dist end - Chrysler used distributor caps with slots where the wires go in, so the plug wire terminals served as the distributor terminals. The problem was one of the crimps broke the black center conductor. I pried it open, cut the bad (crimped area on the) wire and crimped it back together using a hammer and screwdriver, and a jig I made out of a scrap of 1x2 and it ran fine. That was the *last* set of Autolite wires I ever bought, was many, many years ago.

Albertj

PS: the coil wire from that set is now on my garden tractor, has been for 14+ years I think... it's not a demanding application.


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PostSubject: Re: crank/no start after rain. resolved - CKPS   crank/no start after rain. resolved - CKPS - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 28, 2010 3:22 pm

I've got the autolite professional series on mine. Haven't had any issues.
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AJ wrote:If they were like a set I had on a Dodge I sued to own
do tell..
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robotennis61 wrote:
AJ wrote:If they were like a set I had on a Dodge I sued to own
do tell..

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't mind acquiring a car this way...
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PostSubject: Re: crank/no start after rain. resolved - CKPS   crank/no start after rain. resolved - CKPS - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 28, 2010 4:14 pm

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I guess mine decided 11 years was enough, screw making it to 100K.
Age is the other factor that makes parts fail. Mine made it to 109k miles, but only 8 years. I think 100k miles is accurate because most people drive at least 12k miles per year. Your car has only seen about half that. Take tires for example - the tread can wear out from miles, or the rubber & belts can break down from age.

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I've got the autolite professional series on mine. Haven't had any issues.
Not yet, but I'm curious why you took a chance not going with the good stuff?

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I guess mine decided 11 years was enough, screw making it to 100K.
Age is the other factor that makes parts fail. Mine made it to 109k miles, but only 8 years. I think 100k miles is accurate because most people drive at least 12k miles per year. Your car has only seen about half that. Take tires for example - the tread can wear out from miles, or the rubber & belts can break down from age.

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I've got the autolite professional series on mine. Haven't had any issues.
Not yet, but I'm curious why you took a chance not going with the good stuff?

I've figured out that so far I drive about 25-30 per year. I bought the car in march, didn't really drive it until August, and so far I've put on about 15. I essentially live in my car. I was very surprised that it still had the original tires on it.

I got the autolite professional series because it was the same price as the ACDelco, but I could have it overnight on a sunday whereas I would have had to wait a few days for the ACDelco. I needed them and couldn't really wait. The quality of them seemed to be very good IMO. They felt heavier and bigger gauge than the ACDelco. We'll see how it goes and I'll keep you updated.
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GMFreak8 wrote:
I got the autolite professional series because it was the same price as the ACDelco, but I could have it overnight on a sunday whereas I would have had to wait a few days for the ACDelco. I needed them and couldn't really wait. The quality of them seemed to be very good IMO. They felt heavier and bigger gauge than the ACDelco. We'll see how it goes and I'll keep you updated.
Have you since had a chance to read the Technical Data on Magnecor's website. It is explained why size doesn't always matter. It's how they are made and with what materials that matters.
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Rickw wrote:
GMFreak8 wrote:
I got the autolite professional series because it was the same price as the ACDelco, but I could have it overnight on a sunday whereas I would have had to wait a few days for the ACDelco. I needed them and couldn't really wait. The quality of them seemed to be very good IMO. They felt heavier and bigger gauge than the ACDelco. We'll see how it goes and I'll keep you updated.
Have you since had a chance to read the Technical Data on Magnecor's website. It is explained why size doesn't always matter. It's how they are made and with what materials that matters.

Yeah I know. Their plugs seem to be pretty good quality. I'm not going to worry about that.
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GMFreak8 wrote:
[Have you since had a chance to read the Technical Data on Magnecor's website. It is explained why size doesn't always matter. It's how they are made and with what materials that matters.

Yeah I know. Their plugs seem to be pretty good quality. I'm not going to worry about that.[/quote]


You Misunderstood what I said obviously.
First off, I'm not trying to sell their products, have mentioned that numerous times.
BTW, they sell wires and not plugs.
I was asking if you had a chance to read up on the technical aspects of how a wire is manufactured and the differences between wire types.
And I don't know what it is you have to worry about or not worry about.?
If you don't feel reading it, just say so.
And do your own research from now on if you don't care about what information is being offered you.
You keep asking questions that are either already posted on here somewhere or are in the FSM or Mitchell's, etc.
Don't be so lazy and start doing your research first and maybe you'll learn something and be able to pass that knowledge on.
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I'm not the one to give you the negative feedback, but I'm glad someone did. Sorry for pissing in your cheerios and trying to learn things. Obviously you have a very short temper. You might want to get help with that. Good day sir.
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GMFreak8 wrote:
robotennis61 wrote:
AJ wrote:If they were like a set I had on a Dodge I sued to own
do tell..

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't mind acquiring a car this way...
I went bakc and fixed teh typos.

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Filled up the tank last week and watched a half gallon drip out of the back of the car. i'm going to assume that there's a pretty good sized leak in the tank or fill tube which contributed to this problem as well...
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jonly wrote:
Filled up the tank last week and watched a half gallon drip out of the back of the car. i'm going to assume that there's a pretty good sized leak in the tank or fill tube which contributed to this problem as well...

Is your check engine light on?

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no, it's not.
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