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Z-type Aficionado
Name : Andrew Zamiska Age : 37 Location : Cecil, PA - 25 miles south of Pittsburgh Joined : 2009-06-29 Post Count : 1429 Merit : 63
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:09 pm | |
| Yeeeeeah that might be cool! | |
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pbrktrt Enthusiast
Name : patrick gervais Location : muskegon.mi Joined : 2011-07-18 Post Count : 164 Merit : 5
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:11 pm | |
| If nothing else, you would have the one and only. Nicely done, I might add. | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8687 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:51 pm | |
| - Z-type wrote:
- No, I didn't name it . I didn't even have a project name for it. The Lesabre has always been called 'the red car' because we have so many cars to begin with. And good point about the bar code. I didn't realize that's what it was for until recently. Luckily, my car doesn't need emissions because of the Classic license plate, at least in PA. I have everything installed and in place in case it ever does though!
What do you think would be a good name for it? Candi? Brandy? Danielle? | |
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Z-type Aficionado
Name : Andrew Zamiska Age : 37 Location : Cecil, PA - 25 miles south of Pittsburgh Joined : 2009-06-29 Post Count : 1429 Merit : 63
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:30 pm | |
| I like Danielle. I'll have to ponder on that....
Hey, does anyone know if the Aeroforce Interceptors work on the Series I / OBD 1.5?
I'd like to get one either way...if it doesn't work on my T-type I'll use it on my SSEi. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:43 pm | |
| _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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Z-type Aficionado
Name : Andrew Zamiska Age : 37 Location : Cecil, PA - 25 miles south of Pittsburgh Joined : 2009-06-29 Post Count : 1429 Merit : 63
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:25 am | |
| Thanks Aaron....don't know how I missed that in the search. But cool...now I know. At least my Actron works....gives me all of the listed parameters that the Aeroforce would have.
I guess I'm more concerned with being able to read KR on my SSEI.For some reason,my Actron won't show KR on OBDII.
Thanks again! | |
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Z-type Aficionado
Name : Andrew Zamiska Age : 37 Location : Cecil, PA - 25 miles south of Pittsburgh Joined : 2009-06-29 Post Count : 1429 Merit : 63
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:07 pm | |
| From LesabreT.com: Hello all, Another update on the project. I got the engine torn down for modifications today. Didn't take me long, but I'm not done either. I still have to remove the valve covers (the rear one ) to do the new rockers but since I don't have the rockers yet, that can wait. Anyway, pictures! Hood removed once more. Draining coolant to try and avoid later messes with the LIM. Hmmm...oil on the supercharger gasket. PCV problem, methinks. LIM removed. LIM and fuel rail (thank goodness for the fuel line quick disconnects). The lines were still holding pressure too! I haven't driven this thing for over a month. Stuffed the head ports with lint-free rags until I get the new, ported, non-walled LIM on there. Just a reference picture to compare to the porting my friend is doing on the supercharger later on. In other news, I have a 2.5" pulley on the way - should be here Monday or Tuesday. I also just got done talking with Ryan at GMtuners.com (Sinister Performance) and I have a new PCM tune on the way as well. Still trying to find a '93 non-walled LIM to install, but that's the least of my worries. I have to get some cash to buy the new rockers!
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ghpcnm Aficionado
Name : Dave Age : 72 Location : FLORIDA / The Stand Your Ground State Joined : 2011-02-21 Post Count : 2044 Merit : 23
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Z-type Aficionado
Name : Andrew Zamiska Age : 37 Location : Cecil, PA - 25 miles south of Pittsburgh Joined : 2009-06-29 Post Count : 1429 Merit : 63
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:39 pm | |
| Curse you Dave! Now that song will be stuck in my head for the next 3 days. I didn't even listen to it! | |
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ghpcnm Aficionado
Name : Dave Age : 72 Location : FLORIDA / The Stand Your Ground State Joined : 2011-02-21 Post Count : 2044 Merit : 23
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Z-type Aficionado
Name : Andrew Zamiska Age : 37 Location : Cecil, PA - 25 miles south of Pittsburgh Joined : 2009-06-29 Post Count : 1429 Merit : 63
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:49 pm | |
| Lol Thanks Dave...the compliment makes up for your dirty business. | |
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Z-type Aficionado
Name : Andrew Zamiska Age : 37 Location : Cecil, PA - 25 miles south of Pittsburgh Joined : 2009-06-29 Post Count : 1429 Merit : 63
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:41 pm | |
| Progress! Got my 2.5" pulley in the mail today. Because I was bored and can't do ANYTHING else on the car until I get an LIM and rockers, I put some new O-rings on things. The PCV valve: The LIM metal coolant line under the alternator: And just for fun, here's the nest I have to dig through to get to the rear valve cover, sooner or later. I guess it won't be as bad once I take the alternator off. That's all for now - like always, I will update when something significant happens!
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charlieRobinson Expert
Name : Charlie Age : 39 Location : Knoxville, TN Joined : 2011-05-17 Post Count : 3924 Merit : 31
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:41 pm | |
| Andrew, your work is looking very nice. Can't wait to see your success! | |
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Z-type Aficionado
Name : Andrew Zamiska Age : 37 Location : Cecil, PA - 25 miles south of Pittsburgh Joined : 2009-06-29 Post Count : 1429 Merit : 63
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:50 pm | |
| Thanks Charlie! I've been following your thread as well!
And it's a little odd having the engine apart....again...but it'll be well worth it!
In addition to my post above, I have a small pile of all new gaskets for the engine parts I removed and tomorrow I'll be getting the supercharger ready to send off to Karma! I can already feel the POWAAAA. | |
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Z-type Aficionado
Name : Andrew Zamiska Age : 37 Location : Cecil, PA - 25 miles south of Pittsburgh Joined : 2009-06-29 Post Count : 1429 Merit : 63
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:07 pm | |
| Looks like the blower has made it to Karma's place, much quicker than I anticipated. Though there are reports of a damaged box. I'm interested to see what he heck happened to it...
In other news, I finally got a hold of the guy I'm getting a '93 LIM from, so I should be seeing that in two weeks or so to begin porting it.
Progress! | |
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Karma Aficionado
Name : Andrew Age : 40 Location : Ontario, Canada Joined : 2008-01-14 Post Count : 1949 Merit : 123
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:04 pm | |
| Right. So Andrew(Z-type) wanted me to document everything... So the following 47 pictures is me documenting everything. So this will be SC work as normal a la Karma. Sounding something like this: _________________ | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:32 pm | |
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Z-type Aficionado
Name : Andrew Zamiska Age : 37 Location : Cecil, PA - 25 miles south of Pittsburgh Joined : 2009-06-29 Post Count : 1429 Merit : 63
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:26 pm | |
| Woo yeah, it's awesome you're making so much progress already! Thanks a ton Andrew! I can't believe what some people do to other people's things. I'm so disgusted with so much of society I want to punch something. And my pulley is BRAND NEW! Now I have to paint it when it gets back here... And to reply to some 'questions' in the post ... -Yeah, I painted the blower with the pulley on it lol. I didn't have a choice at the time. -I did change the supercharger oil, and I thought I got a lot of the grime and gunk out of there, but yeah...what you just pulled out is pretty nasty, at best. -I actually never did 'clean' the surface of the blower, so unfortunately those scratches were there, as were the dings in the alignment peg holes. I do suspect that the blower was off at some point before I owned my old Riviera, so it might have something to do with that. -Yes there was a small coolant leak at the throttle body for about half an hour when i swapped the engine into my T-type. Odds are that's where that's from. -And I'm sorry I forgot to remove that little piece of throttle body gasket lol. All in all, I'm super impressed and grateful for the work you're doing. Can't wait to see the next update! | |
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Z-type Aficionado
Name : Andrew Zamiska Age : 37 Location : Cecil, PA - 25 miles south of Pittsburgh Joined : 2009-06-29 Post Count : 1429 Merit : 63
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:41 pm | |
| Update: I found this on my bed today when I got home: What does that label say? Inten...Intense...something? Let's open this up: UH OH! Mods in a box! Dropped a good chunk of change for these, but it will be totally worth it. I can't wait! | |
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Karma Aficionado
Name : Andrew Age : 40 Location : Ontario, Canada Joined : 2008-01-14 Post Count : 1949 Merit : 123
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:37 am | |
| Good stuff! Start putting money aside for the transmission. You WILL need it. I've had to accelerate my low millage engine rebuild and transmission rebuild schedule, since mine is beginning to slip on the 2-3rd shift. (Though with any luck yours will last longer with a lighter car.) _________________ | |
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Karma Aficionado
Name : Andrew Age : 40 Location : Ontario, Canada Joined : 2008-01-14 Post Count : 1949 Merit : 123
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:33 pm | |
| Righto. Its that time again. After a crazy bunch of months at work, I took a week off to get up to the machine shop for some head clearing machining. So as we left things, we have Andrew's SC with a pocket cut into it and a bit of aluminum to go in there: First thing was to get the machine clear so I could use it. There was a job that was almost done in it that is for the Gauge Research Institute at the University of Toronto. Something to do with allergens and pollen. But fortunately it had just come out, so we could move on to something more interesting. So first a clean up of the machine and get the vice mounted up. And here is our bit of aluminum: What we are doing here is squaring up the piece and then bringing the length and width to match the pocket in the SC. And done! Now the facing surfaces need to be machined and brought down to the depth of the pocket. For this we use a fly-cutter: And finished: The plate then gets a 1/2" round run on the corners to match the pocket: And done: Once again the 100% block off plate is guaranteed to provide no performance gain at all: Moving on; we take the insert and begin to cut the new outlet recession. Leaving enough material at the sides so that once we run its profile the material should reach its highest right at the edges of the hole in the LIM. Since the insert plate is physically larger than the hole in the LIM, there is no chance of it coming free or causing problems. And the 1/2" round gets run around the edge: Finished and tested: Next is a deviation from my normal procedure. This is most likely going to be the last m62 that I do since its time to get back to work on my 2nd version gen V m90 plate and there is still that m112 Jaguar SC begging to be worked on. Because this is the "final" version, I wanted to clean up a few things. Previous m62s had the edges of the insert plate backed away from the edges just a little bit: This version will be cold welded in first, then the outlet will be machined. This will take material off the insert plate and the SC at the same time "hopefully" ending up with a superior outlet shape. So away we go. Part of the triangle is roughly cut out with the band-saw: And then the pocket is prepped. Its roughed up with 80 grit sandpaper, and cleaned up with acetone: Duct tape is added to the backs of the silencer holes to control the aluminum epoxy. The duct tape also works well because it gives the putty a place to "bulge" to as the plate is pressed in. (Since the putty really won't set properly under pressure, and we want the plate pushed as flush as possible.) You can also see the two valleys in the casting that will hold a good amount of putty. Two snout bolts are run in part way to keep the putty out of the threads: And mix and press: It gets pressed in with a bit of soft wood at the top. This protects the blower and also reduces the risk that I might over tighten it and distort the rotor bores. And dried overnight: Now for the outlet shape. As was discovered ages ago, since the rotors have a 60 deg twist, intersect right at the peak of the triangle, and overlap each other by half the twist; The math says the triangle should be 30 deg total sweep(or 15 deg in each direction from center). This has been verified by me many a time by indicating the edge on a number of castings. Now, if I have a square edge, all I need is indicate a 15 deg angle, and run the edge. Mounted and ready: So each edge gets run to just kiss the casting: Then another 1/16 or so more: Finished and ready for the profile: A 5/8 round works best for a number of "math" type reasons: And I also run a edge bevel along the inside edge to make less I have to clean up by hand at the end: And mostly done: Now after pressing in the new pocket, it always sits a tiny bit tall since it is backed in the aluminum epoxy putty. The fix is to carefully shim up the blower so its perfectly flat: Carefully touch off a half thou above the machined blower surface: And clean it up: This is now ready to be honed in to match the machined blower surface: There are a few further things to do. The inlet still needs to have its polish up done, there are edges to be cleaned up by hand at the points of the outlet triangle, the bottom needs to be honed to perfection, it needs cleaning to remove all chips, and the needle bearings need to be changed. Also there is another custom bit to be made out of Delrin for a PCV valve oil separator. Andrew, I'm afraid that will have to wait until part 3, hopefully much shorter time between parts than 1-2. Cheers! _________________ | |
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BMD Aficionado
Name : BMD Location : Canada Joined : 2009-04-28 Post Count : 1161 Merit : 36
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:44 pm | |
| Wow, that is really nice work Andrew. | |
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ghpcnm Aficionado
Name : Dave Age : 72 Location : FLORIDA / The Stand Your Ground State Joined : 2011-02-21 Post Count : 2044 Merit : 23
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:55 pm | |
| Can't wait to see the end result | |
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Z-type Aficionado
Name : Andrew Zamiska Age : 37 Location : Cecil, PA - 25 miles south of Pittsburgh Joined : 2009-06-29 Post Count : 1429 Merit : 63
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:43 pm | |
| Holy cow, looks awesome! I'm very familiar with Hometown Hero's build from a few years ago and this looks similar, but I do see the differences you pointed out. I cannot wait! i can feel the torque already... And yeah I guess I should probably start saving money for a trans . Thanks, Andrew, I owe you huge. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: My L67 swap from LesabreT.com Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:49 pm | |
| Um, I've got an extra M90 sitting on my shelf - it could be sitting on your shelf, Karma.
If you're willing to do another, I got dibs! _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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