| INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys | |
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BillBoost37 Junkie
Location : Enfield CT Joined : 2007-11-28 Post Count : 769 Merit : 26
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Tue May 06, 2008 7:04 am | |
| In the 3800 community the two pulley's are considered interchangeable. Both fit either companies hub and both seem to work the same.
I have had much better service and always gotten the right part the first time in the right quantity from Intense, ZZP has counting issue my experience. | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Tue May 06, 2008 8:31 am | |
| http://smoothflowpulleys.com/index.html FTW....... 90$ for a MPS.............
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Tue May 06, 2008 8:56 am | |
| Things to consider:
- INTENSE will no longer install pulleys for free on G-Body cars.
- ZZP uses a painted finish, which will wear n the spot the belt contacts.
- ZZP mounting screws are superior to the INTENSE ones.
- The RIviera's pulley arrangement & belt routing makes belt slip much less a concern than with W-body cars. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Tue May 06, 2008 9:30 am | |
| I still vote for the Pulley Boys MPS | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Tue May 06, 2008 11:07 am | |
| I have a couple of Nate's (Smoothflow) pulleys, a 3.4 and a 3.8, don't recall if they are marked or not, thought they were. He will make pulleys to interchange with any other mfgr's mps kit. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Tue May 06, 2008 11:11 am | |
| INTENSE pulleys (MPS) were originally not marked. My 3.4" is plain; I like it better that way for some reason. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Tue May 06, 2008 12:07 pm | |
| - AA wrote:
- INTENSE pulleys (MPS) were originally not marked. My 3.4" is plain; I like it better that way for some reason.
smooth flow pulley's are marked on the inside of the pulley....... i have one waiting to be installed | |
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Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13 Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
| Subject: quick...need help with s/c belt alignment Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:34 pm | |
| installed my pulley today...used both zzp with belt in the middle and intense with the belt at the end....the belt is fine on all pulleys except the tensioner.....its only sitting half way on....I tried diffenent belt configurations on the s/c pulley ribs...same thing....how do you align the belt?? | |
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Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13 Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:00 pm | |
| bump....
okay....fine....not so quick then...whenever you have time...
Please tell me I don't have to push that hub on a bit farther....
(its already flush with the shaft) | |
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Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13 Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:47 pm | |
| damn.....I just snapped the M8 stud and its stuck in the shaft.... no way to remove it without drilling and taping....
...and now my belt or pulleys are creaking like a bunch of toads...
the belt is 3/4 of the way on the tensioner now though....
...when I get my new tensioner, can I put a couple of washers behind it to align the belt better? | |
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Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13 Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:40 pm | |
| NOT TO MENTION THAT I OPENED MY DAMN GARAGE DOOR AND THE WHOLE FREAK'N THING FELL OF ITS TRACKS AND COLLAPSED INTO A BUNCH OF FIREWOOD....MY ONLY ACCESS TO THE GARAGE NOW IS JUMPING OVER A PILE OF STICKS!!!!! | |
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ibmoses Aficionado
Name : Bert Location : North Alabama Joined : 2008-02-03 Post Count : 1701 Merit : 32
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:52 pm | |
| - Chicken wrote:
- NOT TO MENTION THAT I OPENED MY DAMN GARAGE DOOR AND THE WHOLE FREAK'N THING FELL OF ITS TRACKS AND COLLAPSED INTO A BUNCH OF FIREWOOD....MY ONLY ACCESS TO THE GARAGE NOW IS JUMPING OVER A PILE OF STICKS!!!!!
That would suck. Bert:tavis: | |
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:34 pm | |
| Intense is supposed to be lined up on the inside , IIRC.
I would not use washers on the tensioner pulley. | |
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Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13 Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:40 pm | |
| Tony,
I put the belt on the inside, but it jumps over one rib, so it sits in the middle.....could it just be a worn tensioner pulley? | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:15 pm | |
| Check the SC belt's alignment on the crank pulley. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:23 pm | |
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Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13 Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:48 am | |
| Its on the crank properly...
something, the belt or a pulley is chirping pretty loud...its driving me crazy | |
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Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13 Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:24 pm | |
| I replaced the tensioner pulley....so far so good....
Put the ZZP 3.5 on and the belt's running on the middle ribs now and running "almost" in center of the tensioner pulley....
...and on that note, If your going to change your supercharger pulley don't dick around...change the tensioner pulley to....it's $20.00 bucks and a 5 minute job.... | |
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Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3174 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:54 pm | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:54 pm | |
| Mine was installed by INTENSE. Wonder why they didn't push it on all the way?
Could also be that you used a ZZP hub instead of an INTENSE one. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:27 am | |
| - Eldo wrote:
- I think that other folks just didn't seat their hubs all the way flush with the end of the blower-shaft. I checked mine a couple of times while pressing it on, and I kept cranking until the snout-shaft bottomed out against the washer on the end of the pulley-presser-nut...
I see this all too often. Glad you didn't end up that way... | |
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Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3174 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:14 pm | |
| - AA wrote:
- Mine was installed by INTENSE. Wonder why they didn't push it on all the way?
Could also be that you used a ZZP hub instead of an INTENSE one. Which hub & which pulley do you have - is it mixed? | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: INTENSE vs. ZZP SC Pulleys Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:32 pm | |
| I use an INTENSE hub with INTENSE pulley using inside grooves. When I mount a ZZP pulley, I use the middle grooves. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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