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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:33 pm

Nope, they'll always come on for at least 9 minutes.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:39 pm

Thanks Mark, I must have this confused with another system.
Oh, I think I remember, it was the A/C Compressor won't engage with ambient 48* or less. Unless you request windshield defrost, otherwise the compressor gets a break in the winter.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:16 pm

You are correct sir!

I don't know about the defog override (makes sense, though) but the '98 book says ambient must be above 41* to activate the compressor.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:22 pm

Thanks, 41* it is then. And I have witnessed the A/C clutch engage with the defroster on below 41*.
Just to check and see if compressor was working.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:19 pm

I picked up a driver side mirror out of a junked riv some time ago and finally decided mine looks shitty enough to put it in. Just for s's & g's, I ripped my original apart and took some pics for reference.






It's the original out of my '97 w/ dimming w/o heat
Since before I got the car, the fluid had pretty much already all leaked out and there was one or two cracks at the bottem of the plastic framing. It wasn't difficult to rip it all off by hand.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:24 pm

Oh and so I can get a clear understanding of this, What should a good dimming mirror naturally look like? Is it supposed to look tinted or not?
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:38 pm

It should be indistinguishable from a normal mirror...
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:53 am

Does anyone have a picture of a glass-plate replacement mirror installed?

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:53 am

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Does anyone have a picture of a glass-plate replacement mirror installed?

I bought the replacement pre cut mirror glass. I used a flexible two part epoxy to install it. It looks awesome. Is that what you mean Aaron? I can take a picture of mine.

This was the Burco #2864

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PostSubject: Out Side Mirrors Not Working Properly   Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:05 pm

I have a 97 with remote mirrors and most of the time I can not adjust, nothing happens in any position, nor does the back up mirror tilt work. Thought it might be a fuze or breaker and than it will work OK for a little while, than back to not working again and everything works, so it must be getting juice some of the time. Anyone help me.

The seats work fine it is just the mirrors and they do not work most of the time, today put the car in reverse and the pass mirror tilted and they all adjusted just fine and maybe they will work tomarrow and maybe not -any other suggestions MOcarGuy@aol.com
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:07 pm

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The seats work fine it is just the mirrors and they do not work most of the time, today put the car in reverse and the pass mirror tilted and they all adjusted just fine and maybe they will work tomarrow and maybe not -any other suggestions [url=mailto://MOcarGuy@aol.com
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Suggestion: remove the drivers side interior trim panel and use a ohmmeter to check the wiring to the mirror switch for continuity--both with and without moving the switch. You might need alligator clips or IC pin clips to attach the meter leads to the wires.

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:57 pm

My mirrors and memory seats were inoperative due to one broken wire in the flexible boot between the door and frame

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:17 pm

LARRY70GS wrote:
My mirrors and memory seats were inoperative due to one broken wire in the flexible boot between the door and frame

I agree with Larry, especially considering the intermittent nature of your problem...
Speaking of which, how did you get access, Larry?

(You'll probably need the information in this writeup, though: Door Panel Removal)
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:19 pm

I just pulled the boot back to get access to the wiring bundle.

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:23 pm

LARRY70GS wrote:
I just pulled the boot back to get access to the wiring bundle.

Cool, I didn't think it would be that "smushable"... smile
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:48 pm

So my mirrors always use to look like this...


But as of this morning, my driver side looks like this...

It's all golden and makes it difficult to use accurately in daytime no what should I be checking into? (Mine had the autodim feature)
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:31 pm

llamalor2112 wrote:
But as of this morning, my driver side looks like this...

It's all golden and makes it difficult to use accurately in daytime no what should I be checking into? (Mine had the autodim feature)

You will have to get a new mirror or you can get a new mirror like LARRY70GS did a page back.

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AA wrote:
Does anyone have a picture of a glass-plate replacement mirror installed?

I bought the replacement pre cut mirror glass. I used a flexible two part epoxy to install it. It looks awesome. Is that what you mean Aaron? I can take a picture of mine.

This was the Burco #2864

http://www.burcoinc.com/products/online_catalog/




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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:53 pm

if you 'top' teh mirror it will heat but it will not dim. To get a dimming one you need to try monsterpartsonline.com - be prepared to pay several hundred dollars for a new one. You *might* try car-part.com to find a used one.

the trick is when the Riv is parked outside, the sunlight does in the autodim mirrors. I had no problems with my autodim mirror until i changed jobs and no longer had the car parked in a garage all day.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:01 pm

Thanks guys. I'll try car-parts first and then if no luck I'll just top it I suppose. The previous owner kept it garaged its whole life, unfortunately I don't have space to park mine inside...sigh
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:01 pm

llamalor2112 wrote:
Thanks guys. I'll try car-parts first and then if no luck I'll just top it I suppose. The previous owner kept it garaged its whole life, unfortunately I don't have space to park mine inside...sigh

Yep, that'll do it. When new they'd stay clear for a while but as they age the sunlight gets 'em.

At one time you could get a replacement autodim head for the mirror but I don't know if any are available - Patrick at monsterpartsonline.com might know.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:28 pm

It's really kinda annoying because we had a crazy record setting 70+ days of sunlight RIGHT as soon as I bought the car. Usually its very overcast pretty much all the time and the gold only spontaneously appeared on the very first day that we got rain once again. Grrr haha go figure.

I sent Patrick an email so hope to hear back from him n go from there. Thanks again!
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:40 pm

Not sure if I'm the first to experience this but...my autodim has decided to un-stuck itself? After nearly 2 years it's decided it wants to start working again. Can't explain.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:16 pm

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llamalor2112 wrote:
Thanks guys. I'll try car-parts first and then if no luck I'll just top it I suppose. The previous owner kept it garaged its whole life, unfortunately I don't have space to park mine inside...sigh


Yep, that'll do it.  When new they'd stay clear for a while but as they age the sunlight gets 'em.

At one time you could get a replacement autodim head for the mirror but I don't know if any are available - Patrick at monsterpartsonline.com might know.

Is it the autodim mirror glass itself that goes bad, or a sensor?
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:23 pm

I figured it was the glass as it physically gets stuck a deep golden color but now I'm curious as my glass once again looks normal
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Side Mirror Problems (heated, auto-dimming, tilt)   Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:09 pm

llamalor2112 wrote:
I figured it was the glass as it physically gets stuck a deep golden color but now I'm curious as my glass once again looks normal


Hrmm, now THAT is interesting.

I've seen some of the mirrors where it looks like the gold has "run" inside the glass like honey. In those cases it seems pretty clear that the glass has failed. But your observation is interesting. Would be cool if it were determined that the glass is still good, and it is something else..... especially if that "something else" were fixable.
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