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steel2040 Member
Joined : 2007-04-12 Post Count : 56 Merit : 0
| Subject: Spark plug question Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:35 am | |
| Ok i bought some 605's they only cost me a buck a piece but my question to you guys is how do you get to the back ones? i mean it looks like getting under would be the best root but then agin i cant jack the car that far up. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:13 pm | |
| Some have used ramps to get the car up more easily. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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Brad95Riv Member
Name : Brad Age : 44 Location : Wisconsin Joined : 2007-01-18 Post Count : 97 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:59 pm | |
| Underneath is the best way to go. I suppose it may be possible to get at them from the wheel well, if you remove the plastic skirt. Not sure on that, however. | |
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jax95riv Aficionado
Name : Jack Age : 62 Location : Oklahoma City Joined : 2007-01-14 Post Count : 1062 Merit : 6
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:39 pm | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:40 pm | |
| Keep in mind there are differences between the '95 and '96-up models. I think it's easier to do from the top on newer Rivs. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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Brad95Riv Member
Name : Brad Age : 44 Location : Wisconsin Joined : 2007-01-18 Post Count : 97 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:53 am | |
| On my car it sure seemed impossible to change them from above. IIRC, there were A/C and/or heater hoses in the way. I'll have to take a look again (and maybe take some pics). | |
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jax95riv Aficionado
Name : Jack Age : 62 Location : Oklahoma City Joined : 2007-01-14 Post Count : 1062 Merit : 6
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:43 am | |
| Everyone seems to have a different opinion on this. When I changed mine, I removed the cover and unbolted the brace that holds the two heater hoses together (follow the HH from the water pump back and there is a brace that has one bolt in it). By removing the bolt I could have enough play to get my hands down the back side when I laid over the top of the motor. I only weigh 165 so if your hands a big that may not be a good option for you.
Others say from the bottom. I dunno, that just seemed like a farther distance to me, so I never tried it that way. Hope that helps and good luck. | |
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99Rivman Aficionado
Name : Randall Location : North Carolina Joined : 2007-01-16 Post Count : 2009 Merit : 90
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:35 am | |
| I used ramps when I changed them on my '95, just pull it up, get a long extension and go to it! | |
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steel2040 Member
Joined : 2007-04-12 Post Count : 56 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:55 pm | |
| thanks guys its good to know some do it from the top i think im going to try it from that way tommrow | |
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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:17 pm | |
| how do i change the rear spark plugs in this pile, i already changed my plugs and wires in the front, but how do i reach the rear plugs and wires. | |
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2toneRivi Member
Name : Chris Age : 37 Location : BG 562 Joined : 2007-04-24 Post Count : 94 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:19 pm | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:25 pm | |
| I'm guessing '95. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:29 pm | |
| 95 series 1, im almost positive thats in my SIG | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:55 pm | |
| Well, you have no visible sig, so you might want to check your profile. Anyway... I've found the easiest way for me to change the rear plugs is to lean across the passenger fender and reach behind the engine with my left arm. It's not all that difficult if you take your time, and your arms aren't too short, or too long. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:03 pm | |
| Corey has a sig, but it wasn't turned on. I've fixed this for you, Corey. Should be good from now on. In the future, if you can't see your sig in posts, it isn't there!
Apparently '95 plugs are more difficult than '96-up? Series I people, is this correct? _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:18 pm | |
| oooo my bad,yea 95 is a real PITA | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:01 pm | |
| I find it easier to go up on ramps and do it from underneath. | |
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robertwolf86 Fanatic
Name : robert Age : 38 Location : new york Joined : 2007-03-11 Post Count : 268 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:19 pm | |
| doing it from the underbody can be just as tricky as doing from the top | |
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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:33 pm | |
| yea i tired that today i was afraid the riv was going to crush me | |
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99Rivman Aficionado
Name : Randall Location : North Carolina Joined : 2007-01-16 Post Count : 2009 Merit : 90
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:06 pm | |
| - deekster_caddy wrote:
- I find it easier to go up on ramps and do it from underneath.
That is how I did it in mine. | |
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blackbart95 Enthusiast
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Canton, NC Joined : 2007-09-16 Post Count : 104 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:22 am | |
| changing them from underneath the car is the only way to go. There's plenty of room between the ex down pipe and the bottom edge of the firewall. Should take only about 15 minutes | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:19 am | |
| Randall, is the '95 that much harder to do than the '99 from up top? _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:43 am | |
| - blackbart95 wrote:
- changing them from underneath the car is the only way to go. There's plenty of room between the ex down pipe and the bottom edge of the firewall. Should take only about 15 minutes
It doesn't take me that long to do the rear plugs from up top. However, I think it is an easier task because I have the STB up there to support myself with my right arm/hand while my left does the work. I'm also curious, does the 95 have LESS room to work with from the top? | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:46 am | |
| I reach in under the stb, and from the far left side for the most part, reaching across the engine from the left side to get at all 3 plugs.
Doing it from underneath might work fine too, as long as you can get your car high enough to get good access, and SUPPORT THE CAR PROPERLY. I perfer to work from up top since I can reach all plugs fairly easily. | |
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blackbart95 Enthusiast
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Canton, NC Joined : 2007-09-16 Post Count : 104 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: Series I spark plugs - Anyone know how to do it? Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:02 pm | |
| On my basically stock '95 SC you can barely feel the tops of the plug wires from the top with the tips of your fingers. I can't imagine even being able to get a socket on them from the top. Looking at a previous post, it looks as though there is a big difference between the '95s and later models. Before I changed mine, I called a local mechanic and he said he rotates the engine forward by loosening the engine mounts and that it would be a 2 hour job I changed the rear plugs in about 15 minutes, including the time it took to jack and support the car w/quality jack stands and to gap the new plugs. Tools required: 5/8 plug socket, short and medium length extensions, and a 3/8 drive ratchet (the flex head kind with a long handle is a big plus). I found the best method was to reach over the top of the ex down pipe. There's plenty of room to work once you get above it, but you can't see much, so you must be able to work by feel alone | |
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