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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 04, 2007 8:26 pm

I run Shell Rotella Synthetic 5W40 and a Purolator Pure 1 in everything but my higher mileage cars - Which get Rotella 15W40...

There was a forum I used to frequent that rates Rotella as the best overall synthetic oil simply due to price, high detergent content, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 04, 2007 8:38 pm

I used to use Shell X100 oil, quite a few years ago, because the tests showed it would not break down as much as others. Back then, and maybe now, it was the only oil that was not made from PA grade crude oil?
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptyTue Jun 05, 2007 8:38 am

quote: "At between 3k and 4k miles, I drop the filter and put a new one on the top off the oil. At 5k miles, the oil is still clean and honey in color."

Can you just pull the filter on our engines without losing oil? I've always drained the oil beforehand, because I thought it would just spill out if you removed the filter first.

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'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptyTue Jun 05, 2007 8:54 am

AA wrote:
quote: "At between 3k and 4k miles, I drop the filter and put a new one on the top off the oil. At 5k miles, the oil is still clean and honey in color."

Can you just pull the filter on our engines without losing oil? I've always drained the oil beforehand, because I thought it would just spill out if you removed the filter first.

You will lose what is in the filter and a little more, probably between 1/2 and 3/4 of a quart or so.
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PostSubject: what kind of oil?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 11, 2007 3:55 pm

im only posting this hear so i can get a quick answer ,im going to be running royal purple. but should i run 5w30 or 10w30
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 11, 2007 3:57 pm

The quick answer is 10w30.

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'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

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'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 11, 2007 4:02 pm

thank you sir
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 11, 2007 4:10 pm

Except that the manual says to run 5W30 in colder regions in winter, I don't have the specific temp range in front of me. I've just changed from RP 10W30 to RP 5W30 for winter. We see lows hit -20 to -25 at times in Dec-Feb, so it's going to turn over easier at those low temps. I don't know how cold Utica gets in winter... My Riv is in an unheated attached garage, but sits outside during work hours. I'll try to get thru February on this oil change, then go 10W30 again for spring/summer/fall. In NY, you are probably OK going either way, but I'd lean to the 5W30 myself for winter.

Aaron, is your Riv parked for winter, or a year-round DD?
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Year round driver, never seen a garage. Perfect starts with 10w30 in temps as low as -10F.

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'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 11, 2007 4:19 pm

I agree, there won't be a starting problem with 10W30, just that for a very cold start, the engine will turn a bit easier with 5W30, and oil will circulate a bit easier right away. -10 is nothing... smile

The manual recommends using 5W30 for expected temps below 60deg F, for reference. (just looked it up)
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Hmm. Good to know.

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'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

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'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 11, 2007 4:36 pm

I was very surprised to see the 10W30 label on the oil cap when I first opened the hood.  I thought just about all "relatively" newer cars defaulted to 5W30.

But then again, the 3.8/3800 is an old school engine, probably with looser tolerances than more modern designs, thus needing a bit heavier weight oil for normal operation.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 11, 2007 5:01 pm

well im in NY so should i go with the 5W30
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 11, 2007 5:33 pm

In NY I'd run 5W30 during winter months, 10W30 spring/summer/fall.
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Being multi-weight oils, they have identical properties at operating temps (30), but the 5W flows more freely then the 10W in cold temps. At least that's my understanding of the ratings numbers.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptySat Oct 13, 2007 9:55 am

I run 5w30 most of the year. The summer months I run 10w30. I'm in Mass.
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What is the drawback of running 5W30 in the summer?

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'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptySat Oct 13, 2007 6:11 pm

I suppose the lighter oil in summer temps would tend to drain down more instead of clinging where it is needed at startup. No diff at operating temps though.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 15, 2007 12:03 pm

we run 10w30 in my moms 02 aurora and and my bros 95 aurora (i hate both of them wish theyed sell em and get buicks) i figure ill run the same in my riv
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 15, 2007 4:06 pm

Where do you live? Your winter season low temps really ought to be factored in to whether you run 10W or 5W. The oil cap itself says 10W30, but the manual clarifies it with temp considerations.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals?   FAQ: Engine Oil - What type and change intervals? - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 15, 2007 10:22 pm

The Riviera owners manual has a chart showing oil recommendations per expected low temp ranges. For reference, at 60deg F and below, it recommends running 5W30. I don't expect you see too many 60deg days in the winter in CT, and would think 5W30 is a better choice for a few months of winter.


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I'm also not saying that you'll hurt your engine with 10W30 in the winter, but I expect the engineers recommended 5W30 below 60deg for good reasons.
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yeah it dosent say anythinga bout it in the aurora manuals i dont really care being as they arnt my cars if it should be 5w30 in the winter then ill get mine changed in a month or 2 when it gets cold hear also have to get it changed to royal purple from whatever the ppl i bought it off were useing
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