Name : Codith Age : 37 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:16 pm
fuckin-A-right!
that 3rd video looked like a pretty clean run how hard is it the get an LSD for that 80E? The 60' still needs some help no?
I have that same FT issue with my car but I find it inconceivable its for the same reason as this. I was hoping you could look at it one of these days when Peter isn't workin
Nice to see this thing on the track finally!
deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:34 pm
Nicely done! The 1-2 shift sounds a little slow... is it shifting okay?
whippled98riv Special
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Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:27 pm
the trans relies heavily on your MAF Table, we did nothin but VE Tune at the track, tried plugging it in but my track bin is so far off from my street maf table we didnt have time to tune. ive got shift times at .001, so when its plugged it snaps into all gears......cant wait to get her tuned!!!!trans and motor< shift points need alot of work, need tons more fuel on the top end!!
Turbocharged400sbc Fanatic
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Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:43 pm
get back to checking the LF tire you bastard
whippled98riv Special
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Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:57 pm
magnasteer looks real easy to pull(at least to james)re-re
Turbocharged400sbc Fanatic
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Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:48 pm
well just so ya'll know it's a bitch finding a supercharged 97-99 riv steering rack lol...thankfully morad had one....
it's back running...some alignment stuff to do yet but enjoy the riv with the hood delete mod
and the new toy...which will probably get the riv's drivetrain once the riv can go any faster
mebe theyll fit lol
ewolfe0050 Aficionado
Name : Eric Location : Indianapolis, IN Joined : 2007-07-31Post Count : 1159 Merit : 27
Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:53 pm
How many colors is that thing going to be?????? black, blue, now blue "ish" silver...
Turbocharged400sbc Fanatic
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Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:09 pm
i'm still trying to get him to buy a dark green passenger door and a red trunklid
Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:22 pm
Turbocharged400sbc wrote:
dreww wrote:
Turbocharged400sbc wrote:
bingo
there's a bit on it earlier in the thread
basics electrical
solid state NO relay for shift sol B reversal
97-99 80e trans (proper manifold pressure switch assmbly)
plumb in a press switch in the TCC relief passage or completly disable tcc in pcm file (as we have done-the junk trans will help me determine the tcc pressure switch workaround as the 80e doesnt have it and the 65e pcm is looking for it)
switch two terminals in the 65e pcm harness plug, also tap 80e second poer wire into the 65e connectors single 12v supply, leave tcc switch wire cut and left ungrounded.
now plug your oe 65e connector directly into the 80e connector (yes they are the same lol)
highly modify the 65e range switch for a pigtail and mating connectors to the oe harness. looks funky but works great
access to the gear ratio tables and other trans tables
mechanical
for riv's- two aurora axles (or just the inner tulips and shafts) bonnies and ultra's (G H C bodies) should be the same (dbl check)
for riv's the mount brackets that bolted to the 65ehd bolt right up to the 80e points (makes ya wonder whether gm loved the cost effectiveness of reusing the same part numbers as often as possible lol)
you can keep the shitty oe front motor mount but we chose to use neon rubber mounts and make new motor mounts down low and thereby giving full access to the belts al la w bodies
flexplate drilled to 80e 4 bolt pattern, purchace 4 special arp metric converter bolts twelve point ONLY! 6 pt wont let a socket clear the flexplate weight. (see pics)
drill the missing belhousing bolt hole in the middle front bellhousing boss of the 80e (right above the 3800 block starter boss)
small piece of angle iron drilled with 3 holes as the new engine to trans brace
two places on the trans case require it be ground for clearance as so far only PS headers have worked with the 80e and cleared the range selector shaft.
3800 modifications
the lower outter portion of the "bitch bolt" boss has to be cut off (you can still boltup to the 65e trans, but you can leave the bitch bolt in a few turns and remove/install the engine, kinda nice lol)
the 80e "bitch bolt" goes in from the drivers side towards the passenger side, and requires drilling and tapping for a grade 8 3/8thd bolt in the 3800 block at the centerline of the 80e bolt location (measurements are included in one of my pics)
the rear water jacket must be plugged with a 1/4npt plug and the kr sensor relocated to the upper block bolt hole of the oe 65e engine to diff brace (this hole is drilled and tapped to 1/4 npt and kr sensor threaded in
im working on finding an 4t80e for my riv....will any other axles work besides the auroa axles? Like cadillac axles? Or will only the auroa axles fit on a riv?
also, should I be looking for a certain gear ratio? I know these trans come in like 3 or so different final drive ratios.
fittment wise the caddy axles look good they use the same subframe mounts and control arm's knuckles bearings etc, so c2c distances are likely the same
3.11 3.48 and 3.71 fdr gearing is all about your power range and where you want to use it...most guys i would suggest the 3.48 fdr. we went 3.71 so we can at least use 3rd gear through the traps and really hit the launch hard as traction allows.
the riv is together....just got the 295 50 16 MT et street drag radials mounted onto the 1st gen W body xlaces and they clear the strut and spring just fine....bit o rubbing lock to lock and the fender lips are gonna have to be cut....but fuckit....it's a racecar lol gonna be driving it with the collage of body panels lol should make for an interesting track vid lmfao
The one I picked up is supposed to be 3.71 like yours.
Since I got a 96 vac controlled trans, Im assuming I will need to pickup a 97-99 PCM for my car too and switch out the pins so the trans will be receiving and electric signal?
besides trans, axles and PCM, is there anything else I need for the trans swap? Sorry to keep bugging you, but you're the only person that I know that has done it.
Turbocharged400sbc Fanatic
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Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:47 am
you will have to get a 98-99 harness, as i dont know if the 97 is the same, not a whole lot else needed just some general skill/trial and error.
some new vids, she's a horny luxobarge (really missed the track lol)
12.60 at 111.69 2.3 60ft we never swapped out the rear air susp sensor arm to jack her up but we are currently at 1.5* toe in and may need more so they are straight under accel...plenty to sort out lol
and here ya can hear the wonderfull whine lol
IBx1 Expert
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Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:33 am
Turbocharged400sbc Fanatic
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Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:42 pm
we done broked it
T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:26 pm
Turbocharged400sbc wrote:
we done broked it
how did you manage that?
deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:39 pm
98riviera98 wrote:
Turbocharged400sbc wrote:
we done broked it
how did you manage that?
Have you seen the way they drive? I'm not surprised!!!
T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:17 pm
deekster_caddy wrote:
98riviera98 wrote:
Turbocharged400sbc wrote:
we done broked it
how did you manage that?
Have you seen the way they drive? I'm not surprised!!!
I'm just curious on how they broke it! It's supposed to be built like a rock!
Turbocharged400sbc Fanatic
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Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:31 pm
track was slick as hell, the whole back 3/4 was glassy from condensation, he was pedaling her all night, even with the airbags inflated she still pitched the backend down and kept unloading the front suspension (humping the track lol)
and broke the diff (havent torn down yet) and twisted the axles (pulled the boots off the inners, the inner tripods and outter cv's have massive play, but these are the axles from the prev high mileage aurora trans that only had the 3.48 gears so we'll be tossing in the spare 60kmile caddy axles
the diff that goes back in (dep on any shrapnel damage) is getting welded solid
T Riley Guru
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Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:08 pm
Turbocharged400sbc wrote:
anyways.... the mount is done (get this riv guys could have a bolt-on front lower engine mount just requiring the W body compressor bracket....we now have full belt access!)
Very curious about this now
Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:16 pm
98riviera98 wrote:
Turbocharged400sbc wrote:
anyways.... the mount is done (get this riv guys could have a bolt-on front lower engine mount just requiring the W body compressor bracket....we now have full belt access!)
Very curious about this now
Me too.
Turbocharged400sbc Fanatic
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Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:43 pm
Rickw wrote:
98riviera98 wrote:
Turbocharged400sbc wrote:
anyways.... the mount is done (get this riv guys could have a bolt-on front lower engine mount just requiring the W body compressor bracket....we now have full belt access!)
Very curious about this now
Me too.
using the w body compressor bracket allows you to use the front of the block for a mount plate to bolt to
some pics (i believe they were in this thread as well)
T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:04 pm
Wow this is realllly sweet.. Wish i woulda done this when i had my motor out
Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:18 pm
I don't understand the purpose of Photo's #2 & #3. I can see your removing the old steel bracket for the mount that isn't being used anymore but why weld a plate to that area ??
Turbocharged400sbc Fanatic
Name : James Age : 44 Location : hangover park Il Joined : 2007-08-22Post Count : 264 Merit : 2
Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:36 pm
1/8 plate to replace cutaway section of that brace, look at your brace on the opposite side of the engine bay, i felt boxing it was the best solution for strength and i went a little overboard on the plate...it's also the ic pump mount
Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:06 pm
I knew you had a reason, just wasn't sure what it was till now. One other question, Can you still run an AC Compressor with this mounting arrangement.? BTW, the engine bay is looking good.
Turbocharged400sbc Fanatic
Name : James Age : 44 Location : hangover park Il Joined : 2007-08-22Post Count : 264 Merit : 2
Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:17 am
yes you need the w body ac compressor brackets
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Subject: Re: Eric's calling you out alex...heheh Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:12 pm
thats a nice looking motor, i bet she flies... to fast for the streets... hahaha... nice progress looking forward to seeing more of it.