| FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On | |
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NO 4 EVR Addict
Name : Troy Age : 39 Location : Sylvania, OH (Toledo) Joined : 2007-01-26 Post Count : 645 Merit : 1
| Subject: I don't think my ABS works. Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:21 pm | |
| I am not sure if my ABS works as I do not hear any sound when I try to lock the brakes up in the snow. Every other car I know of makes a noise when the ABS engages but my riv does not which leads me to believe it is not functioning right. The ABS light is not on. I do get what feels like feedback when I lock the brakes up in the snow. I get feedback in the brake pedal. Anyone know what could be wrong? | |
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steel2040 Member
Joined : 2007-04-12 Post Count : 56 Merit : 0
| Subject: trac question Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:51 pm | |
| ok so my traction hasnt worked even befor my boy got the car so for 4 years been off and the abs light comes on alittle after. When i brake it sometimes doesnt want to and then i hear like a click click click and then the car then stops like real real quick. Im thinking maybe its the Ecmb? (sp) Any way to tell if it is that or maybe just one of the wheel hubs without paying the 150 to have a dealer look at it? | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:05 am | |
| sounds like a sensor to me. you can either toss a coin or take it to have someone with the proper scanner tell you which hub it is. _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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L67 Aficionado
Name : Matt Joined : 2007-06-05 Post Count : 1125 Merit : 37
| Subject: Traction Control Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:29 am | |
| My Traction Control light is on, before i take it in and spend mucho bucks, are there any simple solutions or areas i should look into? Thanks. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:47 pm | |
| One simple solution some have found is to inspect and clean the wheel sensor plug contacts on each wheel that tell the PCM how fast the car is moving. If these sensors, or the wiring, should become shorted or broken, the PCM will display the TC light. If a sensor itself is broken, the entire hub/bearing assembly will need replaced, which is about $120 per side for the parts. Not impossible to do by yourself.
You may want to have someone look at it to see if any codes are thrown that you cannot see. They shouldn't charge for that. Might be able to test the wheel sensors, too.
If it turns out to truly be the ABS unit, it's an expensive fix. Since they don't fail often, I would be tempted to look for a used replacement from Ed Morad or a nearby salvage yard.
Best of luck getting this taken care of. I know how hard these problems can be to diagnose. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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etosino2009 Enthusiast
Name : Evan Age : 34 Location : columbus, ohio Joined : 2007-08-27 Post Count : 220 Merit : 0
| Subject: traction control light wont go off? Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:21 pm | |
| allright it's been like this for awhile now and it's really starting to annoy me. so heres the problem when ever turn on my car and right away for about 30 seconds i will be able to turn the traction control light on and off and it will be able to switch and show whether it is on or off. but any longer than that the light will just show traction off and if i hit the button it wont go away it just stays the same. Now do u guys think it still works even though it keeps showing it's off or is there some kind of wire problem. i just want make sure it works befor winter comes. ive already checked out the traction control thing in the engine bay but everything looks ok. any ideas? | |
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Jason Aficionado
Name : Jason Age : 41 Location : Comox, BC, Canada Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 1378 Merit : 66
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:41 pm | |
| ABS light on? yes----> faulty Wheel speed sensor (most likely) check out the thread in the welcome sub-sectionwhy is this in the audio section? | |
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etosino2009 Enthusiast
Name : Evan Age : 34 Location : columbus, ohio Joined : 2007-08-27 Post Count : 220 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:48 pm | |
| no the abs light never comes on. but i thought this was for audio and electroncs kind of stuff. where should i put it | |
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Jason Aficionado
Name : Jason Age : 41 Location : Comox, BC, Canada Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 1378 Merit : 66
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:08 pm | |
| Don't know where it should go, but it probably doesn't much exposure here. Today was the 1st time I've looked in this sub-section!
I recommend having your car scanned for DTCs.
Any other lights? SVS? brake light? I'd have to check my manual, but I think a faulty traction control box (the one you said you checked) should trigger a SVS light. | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:27 pm | |
| thats where the "dash" comes in handy you can see new topics no mater where they get posted. Aaron will probably move this to the series I FAQ section once he sees it. one way to test the trac is to spin the tires. when the light is ON (indicating trac is OFF) hit the gas from a stop. if they spin a bunch, then its probably not working. Jason is right tho, faulty wheel speed sensors in the hub can cause the trac off light to come on. but so can a misreading CKP sensor. scan it to see if there are any pending codes. or take it to a shop with the proper scan tool and they can tell you exactly why it is disabled. (right down to which wheel sensor is bad, provided that's your problem _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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etosino2009 Enthusiast
Name : Evan Age : 34 Location : columbus, ohio Joined : 2007-08-27 Post Count : 220 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:34 pm | |
| allright guys thanks ill probaly have it scanned. but yah i did spin the tires on a rainy day on my driveway completley covered in leaves and it dosen't seem to be limiting the power on the wheels. | |
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ChiTownRiv Special
Joined : 2007-11-16 Post Count : 7 Merit : 0
| Subject: ABS Traction Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:25 pm | |
| if u replace a bad speed sensor how do u reset to get the light off?? | |
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Jason Aficionado
Name : Jason Age : 41 Location : Comox, BC, Canada Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 1378 Merit : 66
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:12 pm | |
| If you mean the WSS in the hub, it should reset by itself. Have it scanned to see if your other side isn't biting the dust.
After swapping out the faulty driver's side in my girlfriend's 98 GS, I was horrified to see that the light still came back on. It turns out that the other side went bad between the time I scanned it and the time I got around to doing it (ok so it was 4 months...) | |
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54_nailhead Enthusiast
Name : Luke Age : 48 Location : Waconia, MN Joined : 2007-06-15 Post Count : 126 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:56 pm | |
| I had the same issue with one of the rear sensors in my '96, had a mechanic hook it up to the scan tool and found out I need to replace the rear wiring harness for the ABS sensors - good chance the sensor I replaced was never bad. | |
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330racing Rookie
Name : Rob Location : Akron, OH Joined : 2007-11-18 Post Count : 12 Merit : 0
| Subject: Traction control and ABS Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:50 pm | |
| I bought my '98 Riv several weeks ago. I tested in the snow, and as I suspected neither the TC or the ABS is functional. Neither shows a light on the dash (ever). Any ideas? | |
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330racing Rookie
Name : Rob Location : Akron, OH Joined : 2007-11-18 Post Count : 12 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:55 pm | |
| ...in reading another post it sounds like maybe someone pulled the ABS fuse since neither work and no light??
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BillBoost37 Junkie
Location : Enfield CT Joined : 2007-11-28 Post Count : 769 Merit : 26
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:05 pm | |
| I'm not sure on the light thing since I'm not schooled on the Riv's yet.
However experience on the rest of the systems would be either the abs pump module or a wheel speed sensor would usually be a cause. | |
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330racing Rookie
Name : Rob Location : Akron, OH Joined : 2007-11-18 Post Count : 12 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:25 pm | |
| I just think it is odd that both dont work and there is neither a tc light or an abs light.....not sure. | |
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330racing Rookie
Name : Rob Location : Akron, OH Joined : 2007-11-18 Post Count : 12 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:50 pm | |
| I went out at lunch and looked for the fuse but dont see it. | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8688 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:17 pm | |
| there is a fuse panel under the hood near the windshield washer bottle, and another under the backseat near the battery.
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:48 pm | |
| And another one in the side of the dash, where the driver door closes. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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330racing Rookie
Name : Rob Location : Akron, OH Joined : 2007-11-18 Post Count : 12 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:54 pm | |
| The ABS fuse is there so it isnt that.....of course not. That would be too simple. | |
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96RIVMANN Fanatic
Name : Paul Location : MN Joined : 2007-10-22 Post Count : 253 Merit : 11
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:54 pm | |
| Pull the side cover off the drivers side fuse panel but be carefull not to break the tabs. Look at removing the stock radio thread. After you get this off look to see if the previous owner removed the bulb for the traction control light. I took mine out because I was sick of looking at it. | |
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Shintsu Expert
Name : Shintsu Joined : 2007-10-14 Post Count : 2979 Merit : -16
| Subject: Random Traction Control light Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:16 am | |
| Sometimes my Traction Control off light will come on for no reason even though I didn't do anything. Usually when it does this, I can't turn it off/on by pushing the button. The light usually goes out the next time I start the car but sometimes it goes out before I'm done driving. Anyone have this problem or know what this is? | |
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TypetoHarry Amateur
Joined : 2007-09-12 Post Count : 42 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Anti-Lock Brakes and/or Traction Control Light/Lamp On Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:49 am | |
| My 95 does it from time to time, I don't know why though, usually stops after 5 minutes. | |
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