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PostSubject: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyWed Jan 09, 2008 5:58 pm

i had a buddy that works at the local Cadillac dealer come on over so we can take a look at the riviera, and he had me try to start it with the fuel pressure gauge and it read 29-30 PSI what could be wrong with it and what parts do i need


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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyWed Jan 09, 2008 6:08 pm

Try reading it under load at WOT.

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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyWed Jan 09, 2008 7:04 pm

you should read it with the engine running and vacuum gauge disconnected from the fuel pressure regulator. At 30 psi it should have enough fuel to start, I wouldn't count it as low fuel pressure unless you are at operating voltage (engine running).
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyWed Jan 09, 2008 7:10 pm

the 30 PSI was at WOT
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyWed Jan 09, 2008 7:15 pm

come to think of it, I keep forgetting yours is a '95 (you should keep that in your sig somewhere). I don't know what FP should be on a series I.
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyWed Jan 09, 2008 7:50 pm

FP is 43-48 supose to be,

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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyWed Jan 09, 2008 8:49 pm

fuel filter been replaced?

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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyWed Jan 09, 2008 9:03 pm

yupp
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyWed Jan 09, 2008 9:03 pm

should i just replace the whole fuel system
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyWed Jan 09, 2008 9:07 pm

I had the same problem, not enough fuel pressure. After I changed the fuel filter and still had the same problem, I added a hp pump and it took care of it. I will check with my source to see if you can use the same pump. It is made for a GTP and requires a little modification.
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyWed Jan 09, 2008 9:08 pm

You will want a little more umph if you plan on modding... I also went with a hd wiring harness which was easier to install than the pump.
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyWed Jan 09, 2008 9:10 pm

were can i get one
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyWed Jan 09, 2008 9:20 pm

Racetronix is the manufacturer. I believe my source got it from Intense but I will check. Let me see if it will work for series I before you get anything. I'll do it in the morning.
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyWed Jan 09, 2008 9:21 pm

BTY... are those wheels photoshopped on your sig or is that what your cars wearing? I like regardless...
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyThu Jan 10, 2008 9:12 am

According to the FSM pressure should be tested w/o the motor running. Like others mention though..I've seen reasonable pressure not running and poor pressure running, especially at wot.

I replaced with a TRE pump and have been thrilled with the performance. Look for higher flow as well as higher pressure.
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyThu Jan 10, 2008 3:10 pm

i also tested it not running that was at 28
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyThu Jan 10, 2008 3:20 pm

You need to find out if the fp canaster is the same on yours as it is on the later models. The SII might have a higher flow fp than the SI but the canaster should be the same. You can probably get part numbers from the dealership. If it is the Racetronix pump will work.
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyThu Jan 10, 2008 7:22 pm

You might want to replace the in-tank fuel pump. If you have a little time on your hands get the rebuild kit from an ACDelco pars dealer - the replacements are pricey (I've seen $400) but the metal jacket pump itself is less than 1/4 that, around $40 or $60 IIRC.

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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptyFri Jan 18, 2008 10:24 pm

http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=688&catid=162

what should i order
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptySat Jan 19, 2008 1:14 am

the '98-00 L67 I think BUT DON'T take my word for it, see what ewolfe (or who was that sent you to zzperformance) says.

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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptySat Jan 19, 2008 7:44 pm

BUMP any one know what year i should order or if it i need to know ASAP
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptySun Jan 20, 2008 12:11 am

Call Paul @ prg performance. He'll hook you up. There is some slight modification to be done which he can walk you through. He can probably save you some cash too...
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptySun Jan 20, 2008 12:22 am

Eric, what is Paul's contact info?

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'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptySun Jan 20, 2008 12:31 am

yea i just need to get back and forth to work i dont like buying gas for the titan
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PostSubject: Re: CAR PROBLEMS   CAR PROBLEMS EmptySun Jan 20, 2008 10:31 am

His site was down last night.. probably cause he found out I told another Riv owner about him. He is die hard GTP but somehow I get him to work on my car. He swears each time he sees my car he will not touch another Riv again. He's learning tho... 317-537-4004
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