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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Shift Kit....................Transmission Filtter Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:50 pm | |
| ?????????????????????Difficulty level????????????????????????/ | |
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Jack the R Master
Joined : 2007-01-16 Post Count : 8070 Merit : 105
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:56 pm | |
| Transmission filter is easy enough if you've got the tools. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:15 pm | |
| I didn't do my shift kit install, but it looks easy.. if you can do a filter, shouldn't be much problem. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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Jack the R Master
Joined : 2007-01-16 Post Count : 8070 Merit : 105
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:42 am | |
| - AA wrote:
- I didn't do my shift kit install, but it looks easy.. if you can do a filter, shouldn't be much problem.
dammit - I wish I'd known that when I did my filter! | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:43 am | |
| You're not missing out on much. Tuning does more for shifts than the kit. Together they form the best result. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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urbsnspices Fanatic
Location : CHICAGO, US of MFn America Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 336 Merit : 4
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:41 am | |
| - 98riviera98 wrote:
- ?????????????????????Difficulty level????????????????????????/
I would place the difficulty at 46 question marks. | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:31 pm | |
| hey so do u have to drain all of the tranny fluid to do this?? | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:33 pm | |
| You can't really drain all of the fluid, just what's in the pan. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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NO 4 EVR Addict
Name : Troy Age : 39 Location : Sylvania, OH (Toledo) Joined : 2007-01-26 Post Count : 645 Merit : 1
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:51 pm | |
| I don't know if this is the same, but my roommate put in a shift kit for his ZR2 and its like the easiest thing to do. Of course his PCM is easier to acess, but it takes about 5 minutes.
And his kit makes a big difference. On the highest setting its almost scarey. What shift kits do they make that work with the Riv (96?)?
I know his isn't quite the same as what we would use but I am sure its similar. | |
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dreww Junkie
Location : Dallas Joined : 2007-04-10 Post Count : 851 Merit : 9
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:33 am | |
| - NO 4 EVR wrote:
And his kit makes a big difference. On the highest setting its almost scarey. What shift kits do they make that work with the Riv (96?)?
I know his isn't quite the same as what we would use but I am sure its similar. not a damn thing I can find. crappy outdated 4T60's. Even the PT programming doesnt do much of jack for the transmission. Im thinking a swap is necessary for any real "upgrade" for us in this area. this is all I found http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=BMM-70383&view=2047 and no one has it anymore i found "shift kits" but they only install during a rebuild. | |
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Buapo Addict
Name : Ben Age : 39 Location : Eastlake, OH Joined : 2007-07-17 Post Count : 691 Merit : 2
| Subject: ZZP Shift Kit on a Riviera - anyone tried it? Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:43 am | |
| I ordered a ZZP shift kit, with intentions on installing it in my '98 Riviera. It only has 58k on it, so I'm a little hesitant on putting it in. I have to change the fluid soon anyway, which is why I was going to do it (seems to be an easy install).
Any thoughts on this? Anyone done it? | |
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SpaceBar Aficionado
Name : Patrick Age : 38 Location : Quincy, MA Joined : 2007-04-08 Post Count : 1199 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:54 am | |
| I know Aaron has a shift kit but I think his is intense. I've heard good things about them but I don't personally have one myself. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:44 am | |
| It's supposed to be easy to install, but I had INTENSE do mine because they had the car up.
Imo, a shift kit works better when combined with a performance PCM program, it will enhance the firm, quick shifts. On it's own, it makes a slight difference, but I felt like it made a "jolt" when shifting rather than actually speeding it up. When you decrease shift time and increase fluid pressure, a shift kit seems to be more effective.
Be aware there are different levels of spring tension available, which determine whether your shifts are better suited for street or track. Not sure how ZZP's compares to the INTENSE, but mine is one of the milder ones I think. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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turtleman Expert
Name : Codith Age : 37 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:33 pm | |
| so Aaron, you would say it's a good thing to have with the appropriate tuning for sure?
My next major purchase will be my own powertuner but I'm doing the trans very soon. I figured I'd definatelly use one of the milder tensions in the kit and work with that. If after I do more modding and tuning, see room for improvement, I can always change it in an afternoon. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:30 pm | |
| If you're going to tune, and you like firm shifts, I'd install the shift kit. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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TType_Riviera Fanatic
Name : Rob Age : 42 Location : ohio Joined : 2007-03-05 Post Count : 422 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:52 pm | |
| IMO anyshift kit is good..since it increases clutch life,with firmer quicker shifts...which means less slippage an less heat... | |
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Shift kit for 4t60e-hd Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:30 pm | |
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turtleman Expert
Name : Codith Age : 37 Location : Villa Park, IL Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 3671 Merit : 140
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:41 pm | |
| zzp has one but it's out of stock i guess | |
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BillBoost37 Junkie
Location : Enfield CT Joined : 2007-11-28 Post Count : 769 Merit : 26
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:50 pm | |
| I've heard of the trans go shift kit and the trans go jr.
Think it was said that on the 4T60 the trans has to come out for the shift kit to be installed. | |
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Jason Aficionado
Name : Jason Age : 41 Location : Comox, BC, Canada Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 1378 Merit : 66
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:57 pm | |
| Transgo only makes a JR shift kit for the 4T60. Their shift kits are really more of a "fix it kit" because they address problems. It's their "reprogramming kits" that are probably what you are thinking about when you say shift kit (actual increase in performance), but they don't make one for your transmission.
The SK 4T60E-Jr kit Corrects: Light throttle converter shudder. Contains hardened pins and “Tuff” accumulator piston seals to reduce clutch failure due to pin and seal wear, 3rd clutch seal is self expanding. Includes PWM valve, lock-up regulator valve & bushings.
It will prolong your trans' life, but will probably yield very little performance-wise. | |
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:26 pm | |
| Yeah thats actually more what im looking for... i kinda like smooth shifts better. And as for dropping the tranny to install it... is that true? | |
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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:26 am | |
| yea its true u have to drop the trans, the ZZP kit is available now and the W-body store has a kit as well | |
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oldsman105 Junkie
Name : Enrique Patino Age : 39 Location : Queens, New York City Joined : 2007-01-24 Post Count : 756 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:45 am | |
| The shift kit on ZZP and Wbodystore is for the 4T65E. It own't work for the 4T60E. | |
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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Re: Shift Kit Questions Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:43 am | |
| look under grand prix GT they have a 4t60-e | |
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