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+19robotennis61 ejeraser Derek themanwithsauce Abaddon Eldo RidzRiv Rickw Karma maggot oldsman105 deekster_caddy alkemist pwmin Mr.Riviera urbsnspices NO 4 EVR AA T Riley 23 posters |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: throttle body cleaning Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:16 pm | |
| ???????????????? is it something that i should do and could i gain any power???????????/ | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:18 pm | |
| It'll keep your throttle from sticking. It'd have to be pretty dirty to make a difference in power. I've never cleaned mine. :grimace: _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:19 pm | |
| - AA wrote:
- It'll keep your throttle from sticking. It'd have to be pretty dirty to make a difference in power. I've never cleaned mine. :grimace:
OKIE DOKIE i ran my intake wide open b4 with out a fliter when i raced that SRT4 GRRRRRRRRRRR and i dk it would prolly help throttle response | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:24 pm | |
| When you go to sell the car, I hope any potential buyers haven't found this site! :roll: _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:26 pm | |
| - AA wrote:
- When you go to sell the car, I hope any potential buyers haven't found this site! :roll:
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH | |
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NO 4 EVR Addict
Name : Troy Age : 39 Location : Sylvania, OH (Toledo) Joined : 2007-01-26 Post Count : 645 Merit : 1
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:53 pm | |
| It won't ADD any power, but it won't hurt to do it. Best case senario is that it will restore lost power. But what helps restore lost throttle response better? TB cleaning or top engine clean? | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:54 pm | |
| im just gonna go with the throttle body clean sumtime this spring!!! | |
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NO 4 EVR Addict
Name : Troy Age : 39 Location : Sylvania, OH (Toledo) Joined : 2007-01-26 Post Count : 645 Merit : 1
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:56 pm | |
| Me too. I'm gonna do that and top engine clean | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:58 pm | |
| hmmmm i dont really feel confident to do that im gonna jack a northstar V8 throttle body and throw that on der !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahah JJK | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:15 pm | |
| It's been done. N* TB will increase flow for sure, but not needed at this stage. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:17 pm | |
| yah i have seen it on www.3800performance.com | |
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urbsnspices Fanatic
Location : CHICAGO, US of MFn America Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 336 Merit : 4
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:21 am | |
| wbodystore.com has a good deal on one and it is considered one of the better N* kits. | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:49 am | |
| i've cleaned and pollished my TB and it helped restore lost power. all the carbon on the back of the buterfly and crap built up as far back as i could reach. it had never been done (i did it at 100k milles). top clean doesnt really get all the carbon off the TB so a removal and clean is needed if you want it super clean and running perfect. _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:01 am | |
| has any of you ever heard of porting the throttle body? | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:29 pm | |
| its not really going to help unless you port the s/c too. you can buy them pre-ported from zzp (i think) _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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pwmin Enthusiast
Name : Paul Age : 43 Location : Denver, CO Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 131 Merit : 6
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:28 pm | |
| - urbsnspices wrote:
- wbodystore.com has a good deal on one and it is considered one of the better N* kits.
brianteel or animul | |
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:20 pm | |
| hmm i just was carousing on www.clubgp.com and found an article on porting the throttle body of course there was no write up | |
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alkemist Special
Joined : 2008-02-10 Post Count : 4 Merit : 0
| Subject: Cleaning throttle body question Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:44 pm | |
| Hello,
I bought one of those aerosol cans of throttle body cleaner in Automotive store to spray it into the throttle body. However the can says not to spray it over MAF, so I removed it, disconnected it and started the car. At first it struggled alot to idle but I gave it some gas and it seemed to have stabilized.
My question is,
Is it OK to spray the cleaner into the throttle body without the MAF being there? Will the engine stall out?
PS. The directions on the can say to spray it sparingly over 10 second intervals. Spray the entire can.
THank you very much. | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:01 pm | |
| first off, welcome to the forum! i remember you from regalgs (unless someone else has your name) the car will run rough w/out a MAF plugged in. which can did you get? the STP version if MAF safe. your best bet would be to just remove the TB and clean it manually. the gasket is only like $6 and the results will be 10x better than just spaying stuff past the butterfly valve onto the rotors. _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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alkemist Special
Joined : 2008-02-10 Post Count : 4 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:17 pm | |
| Thank you very very much for such promt reply. Yes, I am coming from RegalGS on a PM I received ;-) Looks like you got everybody here.
I do not remember the brand exactly, but I do not think it is MAF safe anyways. I agree on doing the cleaning manually. I wish I had time for this procedure.
My car is acting up, so im trying to clean out sensors. I cleaned the Injectors, have new CPS, cleaned the IAC, have new fuel filter, tried different octaine gas and still have struggling throttle issues.
WHen I floor the gas, from around 1000-2000 rpm, I hear and feel the engine struggling reving the RPMS. But once its past 2000. they rev up quite fast. This happens in all gears and NEU and PARK.
I still cant figure out the problem. maybe you guys could help?
Here are some tech data Ive collected recently:
DIAGNOSTICS AT IDLE:
RPM (Idle) In Park/NEU - 800-852 In DRIVE - 600-661 (Is it normal being lower than in Park?)
MAF (LB/A) In Park/NEU - 0.67 - 0.68 In DRIVE - 0.58 - 0.60
ABSLT TPS (%) 0.0 at Idle
02S11 (V) Constant jumps between 0.045 - 0.85
Thank you, Ive been trying to resolve this issue for many months and still cannot understand what is cauing this. Help would be GREATLY appreciated.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! | |
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alkemist Special
Joined : 2008-02-10 Post Count : 4 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:19 pm | |
| OH yea One more thing:
If I "abuse" the engine and keep floring it, despite the fact that it is having so much difficulties to rev up RPMs in the beginning, I get the following codes:
P1406 - EGR PINTLE POSITION CIRCUIT AND CYLINDER MISFIRE (NO SPECIFIC ONE) | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:25 pm | |
| I'm assuming you have a scan tool of some sort. if you watch your TPS does it change smoothly as you get into the gas pedal? (can be checked with the engine off, key on) | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:34 pm | |
| have you cleaned the actually MAF sensor? how old are your plugs and wires? _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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oldsman105 Junkie
Name : Enrique Patino Age : 39 Location : Queens, New York City Joined : 2007-01-24 Post Count : 756 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:03 pm | |
| Is you Riviera supercharged? If so you should not have used the Throttle Body cleaner as it will damage the coating on the supercharger rotors. | |
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alkemist Special
Joined : 2008-02-10 Post Count : 4 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Cleaning throttle body question Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:38 pm | |
| Hello, Thank you for replies!!!! My Rivvi is not SC. I have not used the TB cleaner yet... I will take the time to monitor the data while acceleration and will report soon!!! Yes, I sprayed the MAF several times with the aerosol cleaner. Wires were replaced last summer. Plugs were replaced 2 yrs ago Thank you very much for the consideration guys!!! (Please excuse my tardiness) | |
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