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Richouser Amateur
Name : Richard Location : Santa Barbara, CA Joined : 2013-07-25 Post Count : 29 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:59 pm | |
| Robo,
The handling must be great, but doesn't it ride like a buckboard? My car on the other hand handles and rides like a mattress right now.
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:17 pm | |
| - Jason wrote:
- robotennis61 wrote:
- Say,for all you smart guys out there,If my current springs are 450pounders over the oem of 154lb, what % increase is that?
There's no crazy formula in this. It's straight up math.
(450/154)-1=1.92, or 192% over stock. haha! I like that.I was king dummy at school but I sure could skate fast! | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:29 pm | |
| - Richouser wrote:
- Robo,
The handling must be great, but doesn't it ride like a buckboard? My car on the other hand handles and rides like a mattress right now.
Richard It is.No,she doesnt handle at all like that.At first it felt different,but it now seems quite normal & the Riv is very tame at all speeds.She kinda hits the expansion joints and the such at very low speeds but at higher speeds she floats.weird. Go to afcoracing.com and check out their spring chart and cut it in half according to your vehicle weight.Talk to the afco guys and come to a determination.I would never ever ever go back to stock.My driving pleasure has increased with the 192% over stock rates to a prodigious degree.Its just ridiculous! Your deciding factor in this case is the amount of spring rate your shocks can handle.If your shocks are shot,you will pogo all over the place like an old van with clapped out 25 year old monroe shocks.Not good.If your shocks cant handle the extra weight,they will be unable to control the Rebound! this is not good either.Your shock may wear prematurely. Call your shocks manufacture and inquire how much spring rate your shock can handle and buy up to it's limit.Simple. | |
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Richouser Amateur
Name : Richard Location : Santa Barbara, CA Joined : 2013-07-25 Post Count : 29 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:31 pm | |
| The saga of lowering springs continues... Can anyone give me a published cross-reference to the p/n tags that are on my stock front springs - PN 22132527 and SMF under the number. Can't find the number or specs anywhere for comparison to the Spring Specialties specs taken from 22192716 - the only number they have. Anyone?
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Abaddon Expert
Name : Scott Location : Macomb, Michigan Joined : 2010-02-24 Post Count : 4316 Merit : 185
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:39 pm | |
| - Richouser wrote:
- The saga of lowering springs continues... Can anyone give me a published cross-reference to the p/n tags that are on my stock front springs - PN 22132527 and SMF under the number. Can't find the number or specs anywhere for comparison to the Spring Specialties specs taken from 22192716 - the only number they have. Anyone?
Thanks, Richard I don't think you're going to find specs on them anywhere. The best I can do is look them up and see what cars they were put on, and what years. We don't even have specs at the dealer. | |
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Richouser Amateur
Name : Richard Location : Santa Barbara, CA Joined : 2013-07-25 Post Count : 29 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:51 pm | |
| Thanks Scott - any information will be helpful | |
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Abaddon Expert
Name : Scott Location : Macomb, Michigan Joined : 2010-02-24 Post Count : 4316 Merit : 185
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:22 pm | |
| - Richouser wrote:
- Thanks Scott - any information will be helpful
Well, I just looked up the P/N. 22132527 isn't a good GM number.... | |
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Richouser Amateur
Name : Richard Location : Santa Barbara, CA Joined : 2013-07-25 Post Count : 29 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:37 pm | |
| That's the problem. This is a factory original low mileage car and that p/n came right off the tag on the front spring... | |
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Abaddon Expert
Name : Scott Location : Macomb, Michigan Joined : 2010-02-24 Post Count : 4316 Merit : 185
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:59 pm | |
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Richouser Amateur
Name : Richard Location : Santa Barbara, CA Joined : 2013-07-25 Post Count : 29 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:25 pm | |
| 1997 Riviera SC Vin 1G4GD2211V4701288 | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:47 pm | |
| - Richouser wrote:
- 1997 Riviera SC Vin 1G4GD2211V4701288
why dont you just take Moog springs part number for your year and give CSS those numbers? | |
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Sir Psycho Sexy Junkie
Name : Tyler Age : 30 Location : Temperance, Michigan Joined : 2012-06-22 Post Count : 948 Merit : 20
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:57 am | |
| http://www.grounddynamics.com/product-p/sps3420.htm
What do you guys think of these? I've never heard of the brand, but the eibach springs for the Seville fit, right? So shouldn't these? | |
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th3fr4nchi5e Addict
Name : Dave Age : 31 Location : Cheektowaga, NY (Buffalo) Joined : 2010-10-31 Post Count : 572 Merit : 30
| Subject: Eibach Spring from Grand Prix - $110 shipped Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:48 pm | |
| http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=5924565&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1
Im not sure if theres any difference between these and the Eibachs people put in their Rivs but I would imagine they are the same. Might be a good deal for someone who cant find a set. If you can get an account activated on ClubGP anymore, that is...
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matt270avian Expert
Name : Matt Age : 28 Location : Frederick, MD Joined : 2012-01-15 Post Count : 2681 Merit : 54
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:37 pm | |
| After doing a bit of digging it looks like they might not work. Part number for the STS spring kit (the same one we need) is 3872.140. The kit he's selling is the 3865.001. That doesn't mean that they won't work, it just means that they probably won't. | |
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Jason Aficionado
Name : Jason Age : 41 Location : Comox, BC, Canada Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 1378 Merit : 66
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:40 pm | |
| No, they won't fit a G-body. | |
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Sir Psycho Sexy Junkie
Name : Tyler Age : 30 Location : Temperance, Michigan Joined : 2012-06-22 Post Count : 948 Merit : 20
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:09 pm | |
| Sorry, for some reason i didnt see you guys replies. Matt and Jason, were those replies to me or Dave? | |
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69GSColorado Fanatic
Name : Jordon Joined : 2011-07-16 Post Count : 406 Merit : 29
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:12 pm | |
| OMG Tyler you've done it. You've found an alternative to the Eibachs. I'd like to know as well if they will fit a Riv. | |
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Sir Psycho Sexy Junkie
Name : Tyler Age : 30 Location : Temperance, Michigan Joined : 2012-06-22 Post Count : 948 Merit : 20
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:44 pm | |
| Those also appear to be impossible to find though... | |
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th3fr4nchi5e Addict
Name : Dave Age : 31 Location : Cheektowaga, NY (Buffalo) Joined : 2010-10-31 Post Count : 572 Merit : 30
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:47 pm | |
| They were replies to mine and then got merged to this thread! | |
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69GSColorado Fanatic
Name : Jordon Joined : 2011-07-16 Post Count : 406 Merit : 29
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:27 pm | |
| Dave where did you get yours? I assume the ones Tyler posted are out of stock as well. | |
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charlieRobinson Expert
Name : Charlie Age : 39 Location : Knoxville, TN Joined : 2011-05-17 Post Count : 3924 Merit : 31
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:37 pm | |
| One of you dudes has got to do the coil over mod! Robo is still the only dude to have done it, but he never shows any pics of the thing.. you'd think he'd show it off if he really dropped it a couple inches..
I'd go for the F41 springs if I had no other option. And Abaddon is the only dude to have done that, right?
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69GSColorado Fanatic
Name : Jordon Joined : 2011-07-16 Post Count : 406 Merit : 29
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:41 pm | |
| What's the advantage of the F41 Springs? Aren't those from a PA Ultra? Wouldn't that sit even higher? | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:37 am | |
| I'll take a pic tomorrow. | |
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llamalor2112 Junkie
Name : Evan Age : 32 Location : Granite Falls, WA Joined : 2012-07-13 Post Count : 852 Merit : 13
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:51 am | |
| - robotennis61 wrote:
- I'll take a pic tomorrow.
the day we've all been waiting for | |
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stan Expert
Joined : 2007-07-01 Post Count : 2558 Merit : 12
| Subject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:11 am | |
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