Riv Performance
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

The 8th Gen Riviera Resource
 
HomeDashboardLatest imagesSearchRiviera Questions & AnswersWrite-Ups IndexRegisterRelated LinksLog in

 

 FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns

Go down 
+67
99Rivman
1967 - 1997 Riviera
gunmetalRED
c0reyl
dboydakid
Lisa P
charlieRobinson
gmann3001
BigRay1125
Mattwa
Coltrain
billy1290
AKC
GreenMonster
J. Chris Davis
Derek
sqrivi
Mike9874
Karma
epic612
Robb
soulbladexll
Snowdog
Abaddon
BrianEsser
ciro307
98inSFl
Z-type
DEMonte1997
Eldo
Allstyle
Sweepspear
LARRY70GS
GMFreak8
Dj Brady
ewolfe0050
1995 Riv
Ryan from Ohio
Rickw
No-Lift
gliderguy
albertj
robotennis61
'96reese
Jack the R
T Riley
ibmoses
TonySmooth89
¤DoughBoy¤
96RIVMANN
BillBoost37
1badriv
jhodges
robertwolf86
TType_Riviera
AA
97rivman
1998 Riv
dreww
clazzicradiorepair
bayarearivi
98riv
deekster_caddy
oldsman105
Mr.Riviera
jax95riv
NO 4 EVR
71 posters
Go to page : Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 11 ... 18  Next
AuthorMessage
1998 Riv
Expert
1998 Riv


Name : Dave
Age : 64
Location : In The AZ Oven
Joined : 2007-01-17
Post Count : 4502
Merit : 44

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyFri Mar 21, 2008 3:15 pm

BTW, I usually have plenty of the 1/8" OD black air line in stock, that this coupler is used with.
Back to top Go down
AA
Administrator
AA


Name : Aaron
Age : 47
Location : C-bus, Ohio
Joined : 2007-01-13
Post Count : 18452
Merit : 252

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyFri Mar 21, 2008 3:16 pm

Yes, only one more needed (one for each side). I managed to squish both of them somehow, but one lets a little air through. It's no big deal, except my driver's side is 1" higher than my passenger side rear!

_________________
'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles
^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown
Back to top Go down
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/657082/4
1998 Riv
Expert
1998 Riv


Name : Dave
Age : 64
Location : In The AZ Oven
Joined : 2007-01-17
Post Count : 4502
Merit : 44

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyFri Mar 21, 2008 4:15 pm

On the way!
Back to top Go down
Jack the R
Master
Jack the R


Joined : 2007-01-16
Post Count : 8072
Merit : 105

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Electronic Leveling Control (ELC) Problem   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptySun Mar 23, 2008 9:51 am

Where's the fuse for the air ride compressor? I asked on regalgs.org a looong time ago and didn't get around to pulling it. Now I can't find the thread. What a dumbass. I'll do it this time lol
Back to top Go down
Mr.Riviera
Expert
Mr.Riviera


Name : Matthew
Age : 38
Location : Florida
Joined : 2007-01-17
Post Count : 4394
Merit : 101

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptySun Mar 23, 2008 10:27 am

my 96 manual shows it is fuse #2 under the rear seat. labeled ELC (electronic level control)

_________________
1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP
AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily
FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Dsc_0110
Back to top Go down
AA
Administrator
AA


Name : Aaron
Age : 47
Location : C-bus, Ohio
Joined : 2007-01-13
Post Count : 18452
Merit : 252

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyWed Apr 02, 2008 1:17 am

Dave, I received both fittings. Thanks again, you're a life saver!

_________________
'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles
^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown
Back to top Go down
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/657082/4
1998 Riv
Expert
1998 Riv


Name : Dave
Age : 64
Location : In The AZ Oven
Joined : 2007-01-17
Post Count : 4502
Merit : 44

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyWed Apr 02, 2008 8:26 am

Happy to be of service. smile
Back to top Go down
Jack the R
Master
Jack the R


Joined : 2007-01-16
Post Count : 8072
Merit : 105

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptySat Apr 12, 2008 3:06 pm

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Fuses

Help out an idiot, which one is #2?
Back to top Go down
'96reese
Fanatic



Name : Reese
Age : 42
Location : StL
Joined : 2007-09-20
Post Count : 259
Merit : 4

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: rear air ride problem   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptySun Apr 27, 2008 5:15 pm

the problem is the title. my air shocks are not inflating. sumtime this week im gonna replace all the air lines and the air drier and see if that works. i know the air compressor works, but i didnt test it to see if it leaks before i reinstalled it. if it is a leak in the compressor assembly.....does anyone know if you can take the compressor from a new car and clip the connectors to hook it up to our cars??? and secondly has anyone tried to open the cylinder head or compressor to try and rebuild it???

i'll let you know what happens when i replace the air lines. i hav to fix this problem before i put 22 on my baby!!!!!!!!
Back to top Go down
robotennis61
Guru
robotennis61


Name : robotennis
Age : 63
Location : las vegas
Joined : 2007-12-17
Post Count : 5562
Merit : 143

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptySun Apr 27, 2008 5:54 pm

before you change out all the air lines check the schocks themselves. maybe there is the prob?
Back to top Go down
deekster_caddy
Master



Name : Derek
Age : 52
Location : Reading, MA
Joined : 2007-01-31
Post Count : 7717
Merit : 109

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptySun Apr 27, 2008 10:06 pm

Is the compressor running? All the time? Does it ever shut off? How do you know the compressor works if the shocks are not inflating?

These systems are really simple. Shouldn't be tough to diagnose. Usually it is the shocks being old and leaking, but if that's the case the compressor should be running nearly all the time.
Back to top Go down
96RIVMANN
Fanatic
96RIVMANN


Name : Paul
Location : MN
Joined : 2007-10-22
Post Count : 253
Merit : 11

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: ELC problems!   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 1:16 am

So I was sick of hearing the elc pump run and run everytime I would turn the car on and decided to look into it this past weekend. The pump barley puts out any psi and I am wanting to convert the shocks over to just a manual process but was wondering how I would go about it? I have monroe's installed and want to put some type of a fitting on the shocks and run airlines to a schrader valve. Has anyone done this or somthing similar. Thanks
Back to top Go down
dreww
Junkie
dreww


Location : Dallas
Joined : 2007-04-10
Post Count : 851
Merit : 9

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 1:26 am

https://rivperformance.editboard.com/suspension-handling-f6/write-up-rear-shock-air-compressor-elc-t1280.htm

yes, its been done. The problem is that I believe the shocks will eventually will leak air. The leveling system and pump corrected this by re-adjusting the height whenever you start the car.

my pump ran until it timed out, and I realized that was due to my shocks being blown out and not holding any pressure. I replaced my pump with an switch controlled manual airpump in the trunk for my airshocks.
Back to top Go down
deekster_caddy
Master



Name : Derek
Age : 52
Location : Reading, MA
Joined : 2007-01-31
Post Count : 7717
Merit : 109

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 12:51 pm

Does your pump run all the time? It's supposed to run for a few seconds right after startup, that's part of a normal system check.
Back to top Go down
AA
Administrator
AA


Name : Aaron
Age : 47
Location : C-bus, Ohio
Joined : 2007-01-13
Post Count : 18452
Merit : 252

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 6:40 pm

Mine ran all the time when I had a leaking rear shock. The pump eventually burned out.

_________________
'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles
^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown
Back to top Go down
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/657082/4
96RIVMANN
Fanatic
96RIVMANN


Name : Paul
Location : MN
Joined : 2007-10-22
Post Count : 253
Merit : 11

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 7:03 pm

The shocks are only about 6 months old so I think I can rule them out. It just doesn't seem to be producing enough air to maintain constant pressure. It runs everytime I turn the car off then on again. It might be the lines were they connect but I just installed new o rings on each end. The pump runs until it times out. dreww, how did you connect the air lines to the shocks?
Back to top Go down
AA
Administrator
AA


Name : Aaron
Age : 47
Location : C-bus, Ohio
Joined : 2007-01-13
Post Count : 18452
Merit : 252

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 7:58 pm

My shocks were 6 weeks old when they leaked. It was a damaged air connection where it meets the shock. I needed to buy new connection lines and fittings, not much $ at all.

_________________
'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles
^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown
Back to top Go down
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/657082/4
96RIVMANN
Fanatic
96RIVMANN


Name : Paul
Location : MN
Joined : 2007-10-22
Post Count : 253
Merit : 11

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 9:06 pm

Where did you pick up the lines and fittings?
Back to top Go down
dreww
Junkie
dreww


Location : Dallas
Joined : 2007-04-10
Post Count : 851
Merit : 9

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 11:27 pm

AA wrote:
My shocks were 6 weeks old when they leaked. It was a damaged air connection where it meets the shock. I needed to buy new connection lines and fittings, not much $ at all.

exactly, mine lasted about 1-2 yrs max until they went. rolleyes
these got about a year on them.
Back to top Go down
albertj
Master
albertj


Name :
Location : Finger Lakes of New York State
Joined : 2007-05-31
Post Count : 8687
Merit : 181

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 12:17 am

You may not want to do this - but - when I replaced my air shocks I noticed pump ran awful long - so I took the air lines off the shocks and jacked the rear up so the wheels hang down. In the service manual it shows where you can use a floor jack on one of the chassis members to jack up the back.

Anyway, the point is to fill the shockes with air, attach the fittings, then lower the car and turn the key to 'on' - the system will then bleed out air to the right level, and if there are no leaks will not have to work so hard to pump up shocks.

if you do need replacement lines, try Ed Morad or actually, the tubing assembly is $13.60 from gmpartsdirect.com, I think it is p/n 25632302. Double check with them before ordering.

Albertj
Back to top Go down
deekster_caddy
Master



Name : Derek
Age : 52
Location : Reading, MA
Joined : 2007-01-31
Post Count : 7717
Merit : 109

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 12:16 pm

What do you mean, runs until it times out? How long does it stay running for?
Back to top Go down
96RIVMANN
Fanatic
96RIVMANN


Name : Paul
Location : MN
Joined : 2007-10-22
Post Count : 253
Merit : 11

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 3:50 pm

I think it runs for about 5 minutes then shuts itself off. The problem that I am having is that when it is done running there is no air in the shocks so I think my pumps shot. Maybe I will go the manual route with the Monroe kit.
Back to top Go down
dreww
Junkie
dreww


Location : Dallas
Joined : 2007-04-10
Post Count : 851
Merit : 9

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 11:18 pm

96RIVMANN wrote:
I think it runs for about 5 minutes then shuts itself off. The problem that I am having is that when it is done running there is no air in the shocks so I think my pumps shot. Maybe I will go the manual route with the Monroe kit.

for what its worth, my pump put out very little pressure too. But the sound of it never changed so Im pretty sure you dont need alot of pressure. The point is to slowly inflate them until level.

my aftermarket airpump is alot stronger (and a decade newer), but also louder. You know how Buick is about noise.
Back to top Go down
AA
Administrator
AA


Name : Aaron
Age : 47
Location : C-bus, Ohio
Joined : 2007-01-13
Post Count : 18452
Merit : 252

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyThu Jun 05, 2008 9:10 am

agree The air lines are very narrow so that it requires only a little bit of air to inflate the shocks. I doubt the pump needs to move much air at all.

_________________
'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles
^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown
Back to top Go down
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/657082/4
1998 Riv
Expert
1998 Riv


Name : Dave
Age : 64
Location : In The AZ Oven
Joined : 2007-01-17
Post Count : 4502
Merit : 44

FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 EmptyThu Jun 05, 2008 9:28 am

Definitely a low volume/low pressure application. I'm surprised the oem compressor isn't even quieter. I replaced my original shocks with new Monroes last year and hardly EVER hear it run anymore. Probably because it no longer runs when I start up or shut down, since the new Monroes are holding their air.
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content





FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty
PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns   FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns - Page 5 Empty

Back to top Go down
 
FAQ: Automatic Leveling Control (ALC) Concerns
Back to top 
Page 5 of 18Go to page : Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 11 ... 18  Next
 Similar topics
-
» Control Arm Bolt 25604378 Lower Control Arm
» Self-Leveling suspension
» 1995 Riviera Self Leveling rear suspension operation.
» Rattling rear self leveling
» Automatic headlight trouble

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Riv Performance ::   General Tech :: Brakes & Suspension-
Jump to: