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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyTue May 20, 2008 7:11 am

Our radiators tend to fail first on the endcaps like you describe.

This is because the plastic is constantly flexing during heating and cooldown cycles. Sooner or later.. crack.

The nice thing is they usually don't blow all the coolant and leave you stranded. They tend to seep/leak, you notice it and fix it.

It is also possible to have the tanks replaced. However it's tough to find anyone willing for the cost of a new radiator.
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyTue May 20, 2008 11:28 am

Yeah, I think I just might replace it. Heres the ebay link.. What do you guys think? Is this the right part?

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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyTue May 27, 2008 2:11 pm

So I installed the Radiator on Sunday. The radiator I bought off of ebay was perfect and looked like an OEM replacement. It took me about 1 1/2 hours and went fairly smooth except!!

I saw a smaller radiator thing (a/c radiator/condenser) in front of the Radiator that looked like it was supposed to come off with the radiator. So I start unscrewing the metal line from the a/c condenser and it starts spraying a clear oily liquid fluid. I quickly put it back on before it all leaked out. That was my only problem!
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyTue May 27, 2008 3:41 pm

Ridin-Rivi wrote:
So I installed the Radiator on Sunday. The radiator I bought off of ebay was perfect and looked like an OEM replacement. It took me about 1 1/2 hours and went fairly smooth except!!

I saw a smaller radiator thing (a/c radiator/condenser) in front of the Radiator that looked like it was supposed to come off with the radiator. So I start unscrewing the metal line from the a/c condenser and it starts spraying a clear oily liquid fluid. I quickly put it back on before it all leaked out. That was my only problem!

yea, you dont want to touch the a/c condensor but I guess you figured that out
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptySun Jun 01, 2008 9:57 pm

Just ordered a proliance 1 3/8" alum. radiator from rockauto.

Total shipped price $188 and some change.

Total from ZZP shipped, $256 and change.

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Hmmmmm. I can't see a difference.
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 06, 2008 12:08 am

Do not buy this radiator. The hole for the temp. sensor is bigger than the hole on the stock radiator, so the temp. sensor will not fit into it. Also, my lower hole for the tranny line was a different thread pattern than the nut on the tranny line, so now I have 3 options.

Cut the tranny line, swap out the nuts, and re-flange it,
Run an external tranny cooler and fill the tranny lines on the radiator with bolts
Or, try to find a coupling for the two threads.
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 07, 2008 9:29 pm

Well it's in, with a very slow tranny fluid leak due to a poor seal between the threads. Took alot of modification.. definately not worth the effort. Tomorrow i'm going to just put an external tranny cooler and plug off the ones on the radiator.
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptySun Jun 08, 2008 3:02 pm

Does anyone think I have any possible recourse because of those threads.. I mean that's some shady ass shit to send me a radiator with fucked up threads on it. The top one threads up perfectly and the bottom just will not thread, so I had to take a 3/8" male to female brass fitting, then a 3/8 to 3/8 coupler, and on the one side where the tranny line threads, is where the leak is, I went over it with jb weld for now until I get my tranny cooler radiator and hoses later today.
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptySun Jun 08, 2008 6:01 pm

They probably will say you stripped the threads during install, but the temp sensor could be reason for return if you had not installed it.

Why are you plugging the holes for the trans lines on the radiator?

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'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptySun Jun 08, 2008 7:31 pm

Because I won't be using them, i'm running the lines to an external trans cooler, just preventing dirt and whatnot from getting in there, not a permanent plug, just a brass 3/8 plug fitting.

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They probably will say you stripped the threads during install, but the temp sensor could be reason for return if you had not installed it.

That's retarded because I never once got it to actually thread, not even cross.
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 09, 2008 8:34 am

You know that, but you can't prove it to them - unless you think it's impossible for anyone to thread it on. Hard case, imo.

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'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 09, 2008 5:38 pm

Bleh just put a tranny cooler in, no leaks. Took about 15 min in the pouring ass rain.. I had no choice because I have to drive to work tomorrow, and I live in an apartment frown
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 09, 2008 6:00 pm

Ok so i'm a little late on this... but my last car i bought a radiator at Autozone , and it fit perfectly and came with a lifetime warranty. I did eventually have a cap on the thing fail not like a radiator cap but a plug for a hole , went back to autozone and they gave me a new cap right there, no haggling or anything.

Also bars aluminum radiator seal ( comes in a small clear bottle and is silver in color ) works wonders.

Any pics of the trans cooler install?
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 7:42 pm

Got the radiator and fans all tightened down, I had to shear up and bend some aluminum at work (best place to custom make anything, any machine you could ever ask for) to make brackets to hold everything in place, it actually looks pretty nice. Due to a different goose neck on the radiator, the shroud can't go back on until I notch it out, which I might not even do.. I guess I was the guinea pig on this one, I wonder if zzp's is the same or better quality? I'll take pictures tomorrow of everything, replacing some ENT under the hood, (red baby happy)
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 21, 2008 8:03 pm

Used core, somewhat beatup and temporary zip ties holding the top down, haven't had a chance to make the top bracket yet.

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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Sep 26, 2008 4:49 pm

radiator is leaking. shop price $355.00 for everything what do you guys think?
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Sep 26, 2008 5:00 pm

Not a bad price if it includes labor, and they warranty the work.

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'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles
^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Sep 26, 2008 5:45 pm

That includes everything, they also said for $10 more i can get a thicker core. Should i get that?
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Sep 26, 2008 9:04 pm

i picked mine up from oriley's for $200, and it only took me 45 minutes to do it. if you have a basic set of sockets and a set of wrenches then you will be able to ackle this job its not that hard. o and sum pliers for your spring loaded hose clamps.
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyTue Sep 30, 2008 7:13 pm

what kind of radiator fluid should I use.
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyTue Sep 30, 2008 9:41 pm

I prefer to use DexCool (Prestone version is fine) and USE DISTILLED WATER not tap water!!!
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 24, 2009 7:12 pm

There is a radiator sold on Amazon that is rumored to be 1 3/8" thickness compared to our stock, which is 1" thick. Part number is 432387, made by Proliance brand. Not sure if it fits the Riviera, but it fits the W-Bodies:

http://www.amazon.com/GDI-Proliance-432387-New-Radiator/dp/B000C8EQVE

Shipping is very low at $6. Might be worth trying if someone is looking for better engine and transmission cooling. ZZP sells a similar size model at $199 + ship.

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'05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26

'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes

'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles
^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 25, 2009 2:09 pm

AA wrote:
There is a radiator sold on Amazon that is rumored to be 1 3/8" thickness compared to our stock, which is 1" thick. Part number is 432387, made by Proliance brand. Not sure if it fits the Riviera, but it fits the W-Bodies:

http://www.amazon.com/GDI-Proliance-432387-New-Radiator/dp/B000C8EQVE

Shipping is very low at $6. Might be worth trying if someone is looking for better engine and transmission cooling. ZZP sells a similar size model at $199 + ship.

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Amazon also sells the ACDELCO 20805 radiator for $210.66 with free shipping.

This radiator will work on a 95 or 96.

I purchased one and it was a perfect fit for my 95.
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PostSubject: Re: ZZP Radiator!!!   ZZP Radiator!!! - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 25, 2009 2:48 pm

I have the thicker one on my '96 and I swear it dropped the temp gauge 5-10 deg.
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