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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:27 pm | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:35 pm | |
| Wow, that is really odd. Sorry to hear that, Anthony. How is SC oil level? Almost makes me think the blower froze up. Can you turn the shaft? _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:42 pm | |
| Yeah i can turn the shaft. I haven't checked the oil level though. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:54 pm | |
| Wonder if the mounting screws were loose. Changed the SC pulley lately. I've done that before! _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:03 pm | |
| Well that could be...but i haven't swapped the pulley since i put it on there months ago. I don't know... I just don't If the mounting screws were so loose than how come theres peices of pulley stuck behind them? | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:10 pm | |
| I forgot to tighten mine once, and the pulley vibrated all five screws loose (pretty violently). I could see it eventually braking at some point. But how'd yours get loosened up? Anyone under the hood lately? _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:13 pm | |
| No.. I did tuning today but didn't pop the hood. I haven't touched the belt since my mechanic put it on a few months ago... Again though i don't see how if those two screws are on there tight enough to have the puller break around them how the pulley could've popped off like that. | |
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:16 pm | |
| Upon closer inspection...it snapped the heads off the screws... I'll need a whole new MPS... if they don't send me one i'll probably just put the stock pulley back on and no more modding for me. | |
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Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13 Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:17 pm | |
| Do you have any of the pulley left? You might want to do a metallurigal test to see if there was any defect in the material.....
thats a total bummer though... | |
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:19 pm | |
| Pulley is completely gone. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:20 pm | |
| Okay, here's what I think happened. An idler or tensioner pulley gave out, causing your SC belt to slip off. It then got wedged or jammed between the crank and the engine mount, creating a kind of wench that was also looped around your SC pulley. The motor cranked pressure on the belt, which tore the pulley right off the hub.
Maybe? _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:27 pm | |
| I did have an idler on its way out , but it seems to be in tact. Thats a good theory though AA...
Anyways an update from intense:
"We apologize that you had a problem with our pulley system. We have never seen a pulley break before but we have seen them snap the pulley bolts that hold them to the hub when those bolts are not secured and back out. This tends to cause the pulley to wobble and put weird strains on the bolts eventually causing them to snap and the pulley comes off. I have never heard of the pulley itself breaking before the bolts do."
"In any case even though you are outside of our 90 day warranty we will send you a new pulley along with new bolts and suggest that you tighten the bolts down securely once the belt is in place. We do not cover other charges such as labor or belts"
That is nice of them to send me a new pulley though.
Out of the thousands sold , i get the one defective one...
Notice in the thread where I introduced myself i said i have the worst luck with cars.....
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:30 pm | |
| I'm guessing that was from Scott C. He really goes out of his way in the customer service department. They really don't have to do that. A lot of companies wouldn't.
Guess you can continue modding now! _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^
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Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13 Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:30 pm | |
| Do you still have the belt? | |
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:35 pm | |
| Still have the belts... They are completely snapped though.
I most likely will continue modding. I needed to get the lower supercharger idler replaced anyway so really its only a minor setback as it would probably be the same labor for just that pulley.
It was Todd Allen.
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Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13 Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:42 pm | |
| If what Aaron says is true, you'll probably see some massive damage on those belts....
If the pulley was loose and started to wobble would that be cause for a belt to snap even if the pulley broke? | |
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:54 pm | |
| - Montaniera wrote:
- If what Aaron says is true, you'll probably see some massive damage on those belts....
If the pulley was loose and started to wobble would that be cause for a belt to snap even if the pulley broke? I dont think the pulley was loose really... its possible though... At any rate my pulley is on its way to me as we speak. I'm happy with the way they handled it. | |
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ewolfe0050 Aficionado
Name : Eric Location : Indianapolis, IN Joined : 2007-07-31 Post Count : 1159 Merit : 27
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:58 pm | |
| I have a pulley 3.4 from a modular setup I want to get rid of. Let me know if you are interested. The screws are inexpensive to replace. | |
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Chicken Aficionado
Name : Mark Age : 58 Location : Montana Joined : 2008-06-13 Post Count : 1296 Merit : 8
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:00 pm | |
| When I get to my pulley mod, I'm definetly going with Intense....great Customer service... | |
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ewolfe0050 Aficionado
Name : Eric Location : Indianapolis, IN Joined : 2007-07-31 Post Count : 1159 Merit : 27
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:00 pm | |
| Sorry did not see you had another one on the way.. | |
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TonySmooth89 Aficionado
Name : Anthony Age : 35 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-11-14 Post Count : 2410 Merit : 16
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:02 pm | |
| - Montaniera wrote:
- When I get to my pulley mod, I'm definetly going with Intense....great Customer service...
Yes I'm very happy with them. There are always gonna be defective products once in a while made my everyone , but intense seems to always make things right when a product fails. At any rate i've heard zzp's screws are better... maybe now would be a good time to pick some up? | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:14 pm | |
| _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8685 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:29 pm | |
| Hmmm...
as long as the belts are of, maybe time to check all the pulleys & replace as needed, especially that big hard to reach one down by the engine mount.
Albertj | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:00 pm | |
| Nice reply, what I'd expect from Intense. Why I like dealing with them.
I'd agree about the bolts not being tight enough. It spins at a high RPM and things can go any which way under that kind of spin and tension.
Another reason I like the pulley boys system - it's got a flat head bold instead of a pan head. The bolts are countersunk into the pulley and you have a much better feeling for tightness IMO. | |
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palermocorey90 Expert
Name : Corey Age : 34 Location : Rome NY Joined : 2007-10-03 Post Count : 2968 Merit : -24
| Subject: Re: Broken SC Pulley? Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:09 pm | |
| dont give up tony, its not worth it. if i gave up would i be able to prove to all of your guys that thought my L36 was a bad idea. but i didnt give up and now that all look kinda stupid
also intense has great people, why do you think 90% of my parts for from intense. because they stand buy the product . why do you think i will continue to go with you, because i trust the products | |
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