Leaking supercharger snout :(

Since it is a nice day I decided to check out the supercharger and see whats up. I checked the oil level and it is low again ! I just filled it not longer than 3 months ago, maybe less. So I am pretty sure I have some leak somewhere and I am guessing at the snout where the pulley is as that area is ditry around the snout and below in that area. I took the belt off and I feel the traditional play due to the worn coupler but I did not feel any play indicating a bad bearing. Is there any other spot it could leak from?

Here is problem number 2, at least I think it is a problem. The problem lies with the supercharger belt tensioner. When I went to put the SC belt back on I noticed the belt fit on all the pulleys. I was like WTF. I thought the sc tensioner is spring loaded like the accessory tensioner? Well if it is srping loaded it wasnt working so instead I manually tightened it back, no big deal. But I heard a scraping noise while tightening it and this is what I found:



Sorry for the crude pic. What you are looking at is the sc tensioner pulley and the assembly that it is attached to (the part that gives it the tension). This is right under the coil pack area. I can't see what caused the scraping but I can see the fallout.

So why did that happen? And is that tensioner supposed to self tension or is it more of a manual deal with that one?
Thanks I am in desperate need of some help!

Here is a far away pic of the area:




Well I may have found the problem:



The idiots at the dealer put a bolt in the coil pack that is too long!!!! I wish I did that job myself! However I was forced to overpay for parts and labor because it was kind of an emergencey situation where I had to bring it in.

So I am guessing they switched the sides of the bolts or just put one in that is too long!!!!

I am so mad right now. Hope this frustration helps someone else.

That suck about your tensioner. It's probably okay, but you should try to get the dealer to replace it. That's just lame.

As for the leak, have you checked the underside of your hood? If it's leaking from the snout, the pulley will sling a line of fluid that you can see when you open the hood.

I was thinking of getting the dealership to replace that. I was actually there today to get sc oil but I knew Paul would just blow me off. I will talk to them tho.

Here is the screws the messed up:



Oh well....


But this has me interested:



This insulation has been torn since I got the car. I wonder how it happened. Did the belt break and tear the crap out the lining there?

NO 4 EVR wrote:

But this has me interested:



This insulation has been torn since I got the car. I wonder how it happened. Did the belt break and tear the crap out the lining there?

In a word, yes.

You really need to get the dealer to right their wrongs for mistakes on a VERY simple procedure. A new pulley and belt is in order, perhaps even play off the s/c issues as stemming from the incorrect sized bolt. Very unacceptable quality of work.

AA wrote:

As for the leak, have you checked the underside of your hood? If it's leaking from the snout, the pulley will sling a line of fluid that you can see when you open the hood.

I noticed a line of fluid on my hood that was slung from belt or pulleys. I checked the level and it looked fine. I also tried to smell the fluid, but it really didn't have a smell. Could it be coming from the screw that helps hold the supercharger pulley on? I don't see any other places it could be leaking from.

racinfan wrote:

NO 4 EVR wrote:

But this has me interested:



This insulation has been torn since I got the car. I wonder how it happened. Did the belt break and tear the crap out the lining there?

In a word, yes.

You really need to get the dealer to right their wrongs for mistakes on a VERY simple procedure. A new pulley and belt is in order, perhaps even play off the s/c issues as stemming from the incorrect sized bolt. Very unacceptable quality of work.

You are right. But you're not thinking they messed up the insulation did you? Thats been there since I got the car in the summer. Who knows who did that. They just mixed up the screw and caused it to scratch the tensioner arm.

If I just misread what you meant than my bad.

NO 4 EVR wrote:

You are right. But you're not thinking they messed up the insulation did you? Thats been there since I got the car in the summer. Who knows who did that. They just mixed up the screw and caused it to scratch the tensioner arm.

If I just misread what you meant than my bad.

Sorry, it was two separate tangents. The torn up hood insulation is from an earlier frayed belt.

I was also saying that the dealer should put in a new bolt, tensioner assembly, and belt. It's just an unacceptable quality of work expecially from a dealer.

I'll have to press them on that. I know they will try to weasel their way out of it tho.

Update:

The oil is leaking. I saw clear signs of discharge on the snout and surrounding area that I just cleaned.

So who should I buy a snout from that already has the bearings installed?

I'd replace the seal first.

How is this done? I will change this seal when I change the coupler too.

The dealer needs to fix this at their cost—pronto!

The leak has been ongoing since I got the car. All the dealer did was lead me to scratch the tensioner arm myself . I couldnt tell if it was leaking because the area had been dirty before hand. So I cleaned it that day I scratched that part. I put another bottle in and I could clearly see oil on the snout and around there.

This is all the dealer did:



Mixed up these two screws causing me to do this myself:



Thats the hard part. Telling them their mistake led me to mess something up. All though the damage is all cosmetic.

Sorry if some where confused. I just compacted all this info into one thread so I didnt have a bunch of threads floating around.

I am going to buy a new seal from INTENSE, plus coupler and gasket. See if that fixes my problem.

PS, is changing the seal easy? Can I do it when I do the coupler?
Thanks

I plan to do the seal and coupler on mine soon. Seems easy enough, but we'll find out.

Lol, I'll have to drop by when you do that so I can do mine.

The "seal" is actually a liquid which I believe is just red locktite. This is the only reason it is tricky. I have made the seal with red loctite once and the next time I used black RTV.

The hardest part of the whole process is cleaning off the old loctite.

The seal is rubber, and can be purchased from INTENSE or ZZP for $19.99:

http://www.intense-racing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=CRS-M90&Category_Code=IF

http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=157&catid=106

i think urbsnspices was refering to the "gasket" sealing the snout to the housing. there is an outer seal like Aaron mentioned but i haven't seen one go bad.

Oh that seal.

If you are in there you might as well do the bearings.

You guys don't think this seal could be responsible for a leak? ZZP says the seal is easy, can be done just by taking off the snout, but bearings require a press.

http://www.rollingperformance.com/snoutrebuild.htm

Thanks for the link, but I don't know if I need to do all of that. My blower is leaking, but not bad, and it works fine.

ZZP: "Changing the seal on the end does not require any special tools."

According to this write-up, you can do the coupler by just taking the snout off. I assume the seal could also be done at his time?

http://www3.sympatico.ca/aepa/blowerinstall.html

i thought the seal was behind the pulley.
and there are 2 bearings both of them require a hydrolic press to put them in.