Name : Timo Age : 38 Location : Finland Joined : 2008-10-04Post Count : 732 Merit : 24
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:56 am
where exactly is the transmission solenoid located? what normaly brakes on it? it gets dirty? or somethign burns there through?
god...i relly need to get my car fixed...i promised tonight to go take pick my friend up from airport...cos no busses go so late. and its a 300km drive
97rivsc Fanatic
Name : mike Age : 34 Location : appleton wisconsin Joined : 2008-09-28Post Count : 437 Merit : 0
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:06 am
this is off of alldata and shows the precedure to service and replace them
REMOVE OR DISCONNECT
1. Negative battery cable. 2. Case side cover. 3. Clips retaining solenoid. 4. Solenoid harness connector and solenoid.
INSTALL OR CONNECT
1. Solenoid harness connector and solenoid. 2. Retaining clips. 3. Case side cover, new gaskets and attaching bolts. Tighten
o Case side cover bolts to 11 N.m (97 lb. in.) .
4. Negative battery cable. Adjust
o Fluid level.
97rivsc Fanatic
Name : mike Age : 34 Location : appleton wisconsin Joined : 2008-09-28Post Count : 437 Merit : 0
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:07 am
now it might be them, but im not entirely sure so dont go off only what i say
Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:13 am
If you have a Service Engine Soon light, then the PCM has stored a code. Need to hook up scanner and read codes before guessing about what could be wrong. Sorry, but that's the only way i know to be sure. I know your far from home but you need to find a shop that can download the codes. Then post codes here and we can try to help.
AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:18 am
I'd be sure the other ignition wires are good. This behavior could simply be a result of bad wires. The wires need to be for a supercharged 3800, as the spark is hotter. Wires can go bad and look brand new, so would be a good idea to just swap out the entire set. How many miles are on your car?
'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles ^^^ SOLD ^^^
Snowdog Addict
Name : Timo Age : 38 Location : Finland Joined : 2008-10-04Post Count : 732 Merit : 24
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:20 am
okay...i better go pick maybe my friend up whit my other car what i have here....or would it be unsafe to drive whit the riv atm? i truy to find tomorrow a place where it would be possible to connect whit a pc to read the code. thanks for the advices
it has 144.000miles now here is the video
sorry for the shaking whit cam..just wanted to record the sound
AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:47 am
If wires are bad, it will not throw a code. Mine didn't throw code when wires failed at 109k miles. Are they original wires?
Does it have any problem idling or during easy driving on straight, level ground?
'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles ^^^ SOLD ^^^
Snowdog Addict
Name : Timo Age : 38 Location : Finland Joined : 2008-10-04Post Count : 732 Merit : 24
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:01 pm
AA wrote:
If wires are bad, it will not throw a code. Mine didn't throw code when wires failed at 109k miles. Are they original wires?
Does it have any problem idling or during easy driving on straight, level ground?
on city driving...and smooth acelaratings...its not so bad..under 2000rpm..i think it was fine..but when steped on the pedal...could feel and hear the vibrating sound...from engine and supercharger. im not sure if i can find any stock wires what are for the 3800 v6 SC... any idea what size and omes is the riv using?
btw...i just called a diagnostic guy... ppl have not much done work whit usa cars here..so he was asking where could the diagnostic connection be? and what type it is? thank god rick sended a repear manual...hopefully in future if find all the anserws there...but atm i fel just so silly asking that all....know alot more about japan and european cars
Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:07 pm
OBD 2 Connector is in insulation panel under driver side, below steering wheel, between brake pedal and steering wheel. i don't have pic's, maybe someone else does.
AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:13 pm
We've seen this problem before. I believe our wires are 8mm. If any of the ignition wires are original, I'd replace them before trying anything else.
'70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles ^^^ SOLD ^^^
albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31Post Count : 8685 Merit : 181
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:20 pm
What is the color and the smell of the transmission fluid?
What ambient temparatures are you having (centigrad OK no need to convert for me) days and nights?
Whey you bought the car did you change the transmission fluid and filter?
Also, if you had one spark plug wire go bad, the rest will follow soon enough. A new set of the factory wires is a good idea - they are not very expensive and the quality is good. Myself, I use "Magnecor" wires I bought from http://www.magnecor.com - you could check. In my experinece the Magnecor wires are the best quality materials but also the simplest construction.
Albertj
1995 Riv Enthusiast
Name : Don Location : Cols OH Joined : 2008-11-09Post Count : 160 Merit : 1
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:48 pm
It sure sounds like wires they really miss in 4th. You need to have the right length of wire for each wire plus the same kind of spark plug boot and coil boot. The spark plug wires on the back of engine go bad 1st start there. As far as length if too long they can burn or get in the way of something else. I am sure some parts store in your country has something that will work. Good luck.
deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:38 pm
snowdog this really sounds like spark plugs or wires. Try them first.
Snowdog Addict
Name : Timo Age : 38 Location : Finland Joined : 2008-10-04Post Count : 732 Merit : 24
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:41 am
okay...now im goin to buy new wires. it this dos not still change anything then im going to diagnostics. but i think they may be wires. maybe one of the pistons dos not fire cos when the spark may not be big enaf the superchargers boosted air just extingueses it. seems even on P or N gear playing whit gas pedal....can hear a bit that the fuil mixture explodes outside of the engine. cos it makes a sound like some race cars do lol...
but thanks again everyone for the tips. hope i get it sorted out.
albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31Post Count : 8685 Merit : 181
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:41 am
Where you getting wires from?
Albertj
Snowdog Addict
Name : Timo Age : 38 Location : Finland Joined : 2008-10-04Post Count : 732 Merit : 24
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:32 am
albertj wrote:
Where you getting wires from?
Albertj
got wires from a usa parts dealer. called Top Parts they only had the 95models wires...hope they r ok? they where 8mm tho..gray color...dont remember what prand...but anyways i will truy now..
Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:34 am
They should be O.K.
Snowdog Addict
Name : Timo Age : 38 Location : Finland Joined : 2008-10-04Post Count : 732 Merit : 24
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:01 am
whats the rivs v6 ignission order?:S...justincase...wanna check b4 start
curious riv Addict
Name : Chris Age : 44 Location : C'view FL Joined : 2008-10-20Post Count : 521 Merit : 3
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:03 am
1,6,5,4,3,2 I believe thats right... let someone else confirm that before u go with that
Snowdog Addict
Name : Timo Age : 38 Location : Finland Joined : 2008-10-04Post Count : 732 Merit : 24
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:05 am
i think it should be... 2 4 6 1 3 5 ???
Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:09 am
Front cylinder, Left to Right is 1, 3, 5 Rear cylinder , left to Right is 2, 4, 6 That's hoe the wires hook up, I think that is what you are looking for? Maybe it's the other way around, Front = 2,4,6 Rear 1,3,5 I can't remember now and I can't find it in the book. Look closely at how you take them off.
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curious riv Addict
Name : Chris Age : 44 Location : C'view FL Joined : 2008-10-20Post Count : 521 Merit : 3
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:10 am
yeah that the piston order i thought u meant firing order, my bad you are right
curious riv Addict
Name : Chris Age : 44 Location : C'view FL Joined : 2008-10-20Post Count : 521 Merit : 3
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:11 am
Rickw wrote:
Front cylinder, Left to Right is 1, 3, 5 Rear cylinder , left to Right is 2, 4, 6 That's hoe the wires hook up, I think that is what you are looking for?
just my curiousness, but is that the right firing order(165432
Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:13 am
Yes it is
AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
Subject: Re: Stuttering sometimes when driving Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:28 am
Replace the wires one at a time, no chance of mixing them up.