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 96 n/a riv that will not stay running

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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySun Mar 07, 2010 2:35 am

well today I took off the fuel pump cover and for giggles i tapped on the fuel pump and turned on the ignition key with out starting it to see if the pump would prime..... It did and it started like normal joy So it look like ill have to get me a pump rebuild kit off of ebay here pretty soon and maybe a new tank. its leaking around the ring on the pump but at least it is mobile for now
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySun Mar 07, 2010 8:46 am

Sweet!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 13, 2010 11:23 am

Well yesterday I replaced the fuel pump and guess what it not working still! I noticed the plucg that goes to the pump thatlooks like should have three prongs in it has only two is that wrong
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 13, 2010 11:29 am

The plug going to the pump is not getting juice. Its not the relay I just replaced it. Wtf!!!
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 13, 2010 11:32 am

And the fuel pump fuse is ok. HELP!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 13, 2010 5:37 pm

Well I was wrong about no juice going to the pump. I got the pump working and took it for a ride and it started running rough and the traction control shut off and u can't turn it back on and the check engine light started flashing and it shut off while I was going down the road and will not start now. I can hear the feul pump prime so its ok.
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 13, 2010 11:16 pm

Does the car still crank over or is the battery dead?
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 13, 2010 11:24 pm

98inSFl wrote:
Does the car still crank over or is the battery dead?
yeah it still cranks over
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 13, 2010 11:33 pm

Have you pulled the codes.?
From the check engine and other lights you saw you should have codes that will help diagnose the problem(s).
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 13, 2010 11:46 pm

Pull codes, recheck fuel pressure...
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 13, 2010 11:49 pm

1870 was one i believe and it had two miss fire codes on it before i reset it
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 13, 2010 11:50 pm

and it ran alright for a little and it did it again
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 13, 2010 11:56 pm

Why did you re-set codes without writing them down.
Re-setting codes does not make the problem go away.
What kind of code reader or scanner are you using.?
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 13, 2010 11:58 pm

Those codes will be back, he just has to go "earn" em again
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySun Mar 14, 2010 12:04 am

Unfortunately, nobody can help him until he "earns' some more codes and post's them.
Otherwise..............................Oh i don't know I'm Clueless and tired I guess.
Probably a daft question but, does your scanner have the capability of saving the codes that were cleared from the car's computer.
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySun Mar 14, 2010 11:36 pm

My machanic found out what was wrong... the gas tank had about a half gallion of water in it causing it to run fine when it was sitting still (good fuel pressure and everything) till u drove it down the road causing the water to be stirred up. he used the fuel rail to pump out almost all the water and since it had less than a quater left in the tank after he took out the water i ran it till the gas light was on and put some dry gas and some good Shell gas in it and its still running great after driving it for fifty miles. Thank God joy
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 17, 2010 11:18 pm

im starting to think somebody dont like me and i need to invest in a locking gas cap. mad
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brians74x wrote:
im starting to think somebody dont like me and i need to invest in a locking gas cap. mad
Is it not running again.????
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 17, 2010 11:25 pm

Rickw wrote:
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im starting to think somebody dont like me and i need to invest in a locking gas cap. mad
Is it not running again.????

its still running fine.... but almost a gallion of water? suspect
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 17, 2010 11:28 pm

i shouldn't complain it could of been alot worse.....some people just need the !@#$ beat out off them
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 18, 2010 12:06 am

Do you have a potential suspect (enemy) or is it possible your getting it from the gas station.?
I don't know about your part of the country but we have had some serious rain and flooding going on around here the past week. Things are starting to get better, but we still have a lot of roads closed and houses that are not fit to live in.
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brians74x wrote:
im starting to think somebody dont like me and i need to invest in a locking gas cap. mad

Your local NAPA.

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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 20, 2010 12:29 am

Rickw wrote:
Do you have a potential suspect (enemy) or is it possible your getting it from the gas station.?
I don't know about your part of the country but we have had some serious rain and flooding going on around here the past week. Things are starting to get better, but we still have a lot of roads closed and houses that are not fit to live in.
Thats whats gets me not very many people even know i have this car. dunno
It flooded in some spot around here but my car was down most of the time when that happened .....
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albertj wrote:
brians74x wrote:
im starting to think somebody dont like me and i need to invest in a locking gas cap. mad

Your local NAPA.

Albertj
im going there to check those out tommorrow and to get some more dry gas and possibly a new fuel filter.....trying to get the bugs out for the "ohio gang" meet in cincinati next month
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PostSubject: Re: 96 n/a riv that will not stay running   96 n/a riv that will not stay running - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 20, 2010 10:17 am

brians74x wrote:
albertj wrote:
brians74x wrote:
im starting to think somebody dont like me and i need to invest in a locking gas cap. mad

Your local NAPA.

Albertj
im going there to check those out tommorrow and to get some more dry gas and possibly a new fuel filter.....trying to get the bugs out for the "ohio gang" meet in cincinati next month

The other thing to keep in mind is that condensation natrually accumulates in gasoline tanks, just from atmosperic air (when you empty the tank something has to go in to fill the void - it's good ol' air). The emptier, on average, that you drain your tank between fills, the somewhat more it will accumulate more condensation. "somewhat" meaning that the condensation accumulated depends on the amount of humidity in the air where you're driving.

Now, as for a gallon of condensate water - it takes years to accumulate that much.

One thing you would think should keep this from being a problem is at the beginning of winter each year dump a bottle of "dry gas" in your tank. I don't know if that would actually work because I don't know that the alcohol changes the specific gravity of the water enough to make it really mix with the gasoline in the tank. Hopefully one of the other list memebers will comment.

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