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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyMon Jun 02, 2014 11:27 pm

Headers.........
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Sir Psycho Sexy wrote:
Idk if this comes with the cam install kit, but you might as well get new valve locks while you're at it

Saw that and a few other little things. Going all the way with them.

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Headers.........

No way man. PLOG for life.
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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyTue Jun 03, 2014 8:52 am

If you read about the PLOG, it's only good for 300HP. Any more mods beyond that #, and you're looking at problems.
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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyMon Jul 21, 2014 5:57 pm

well boys.... looks like i might need an engine rebuild

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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyMon Jul 21, 2014 7:59 pm

I see a big blank space....
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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyMon Jul 21, 2014 8:07 pm

Videos not showing up for me either man
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Dang bro......
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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyMon Jul 21, 2014 9:19 pm

Shut her down and pull the engine. Maybe you'll get lucky and only need a rod bearing or two. Bill will tell you what it needs.

What were you doing when things went bad?

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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyMon Jul 21, 2014 10:05 pm

Video isn't showing up for me either but it sounds bad. Anyone else been having issues with the site today? It's been stupidly slow for me.
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matt270avian wrote:
Video isn't showing up for me either but it sounds bad. Anyone else been having issues with the site today? It's been stupidly slow for me.

Me too.
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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyMon Jul 21, 2014 11:11 pm

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Video isn't showing up for me either but it sounds bad. Anyone else been having issues with the site today? It's been stupidly slow for me.

The site issues aren't related to Charlie's video issue. His code was bad. I fixed the link. Try it now...

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyTue Jul 22, 2014 8:48 am

AA wrote:
Shut her down and pull the engine. Maybe you'll get lucky and only need a rod bearing or two. Bill will tell you what it needs.

What were you doing when things went bad?

I was grocery shopping... I start the car to leave and hear that tinging noise. Gosh darn it.

Drove it home and parked her. I am on the bike until I get all the ZZP parts and take her to Bill for a rebuild.

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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyTue Jul 22, 2014 8:50 am

Who is this Bill person?
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Abaddon wrote:
Who is this Bill person?

3800 and other GM power train master in detroit. I found him 3 years ago when I was going to get my 98 rebuilt but didnt.

AA, had him rebuild his engine after the Nelson Ledges incident
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_________________
'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyTue Jul 22, 2014 7:27 pm

Team, anything else I should get for XP cam install and Gen V swap?

I have the L32 LIM and the Gen V blower.

What else would you add? Will anyone help me with an XP cam tune for HPtuners so I can drive the thing to ZZP for a proper dyno tune?

Help your noob brother out here.

Thank you!
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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyTue Jul 22, 2014 8:05 pm

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Team, anything else I should get for XP cam install and Gen V swap?

Yes, fix your broken engine first.

I would also look into putting together your own N* kit and just getting the adapter plate from ZZP. Sure it might be a pain and you'll probably get a grimy old used one instead of a clean refurbished one, but you would save a bit of money. If it was a drive by wire TB I would say to go through ZZP so that in case any of the electronics failed you could warranty it but in this case you should be fine.

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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyTue Jul 22, 2014 9:09 pm

Car will run just fine with an xp and gen v on stock tune as long as you're still running stock fuel injectors and maf sensor etc. If you do want to go ahead and do a n* tb & 85mm maf which I'd suggest since the stock l67 is smaller than what comes along with a gen5 either wait till you take it to get tuned or you can install it and limp it on ve mode (maf unplugged) and then tune it. Will kinda run poorly but it'll run
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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyTue Jul 22, 2014 9:11 pm

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charlieRobinson wrote:
Team, anything else I should get for XP cam install and Gen V swap?




Yes, fix your broken engine first.

I would also look into putting together your own N* kit and just getting the adapter plate from ZZP. Sure it might be a pain and you'll probably get a grimy old used one instead of a clean refurbished one, but you would save a bit of money. If it was a drive by wire TB I would say to go through ZZP so that in case any of the electronics failed you could warranty it but in this case you should be fine.




Bro, the engine rebuild and upgrades are going to happen together.   dunce 

No time for dumpster diving. Im ordering it all and sending it with the Riv to Bill, ASAP


turtleman wrote:
Car will run just fine with an xp and gen v on stock tune as long as you're still running stock fuel injectors and maf sensor etc. If you do want to go ahead and do a n* tb & 85mm maf which I'd suggest since the stock l67 is smaller than what comes along with a gen5 either wait till you take it to get tuned or you can install it and limp it on ve mode (maf unplugged) and then tune it. Will kinda run poorly but it'll run



I have HPT so if I load the new MAF tune and should be ok until I make it to the Dyno?
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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyTue Jul 22, 2014 9:18 pm

Yeah that should be fine. The base import maf table aught to be close enough to make the trip fine. I'd just stay out of pe until it's tuned if possible
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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyTue Jul 22, 2014 9:35 pm

Go intercooled or go home!
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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyTue Jul 22, 2014 9:40 pm

turtleman wrote:
Yeah that should be fine. The base import maf table aught to be close enough to make the trip fine. I'd just stay out of pe until it's tuned if possible



Absolutely.  Thank you.

What do you think about the grocery list above? Am I missing anything I will need for a proper install?

What about the L26 lower? Worth it?

69GSColorado wrote:
Go intercooled or go home!

Intercooler will come in time.. not ready for that yet.


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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyTue Jul 22, 2014 9:40 pm

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Bro, the engine rebuild and upgrades are going to happen together.   dunce 

No time for dumpster diving. Im ordering it all and sending it with the Riv to Bill, ASAP


That's good at least.

I would take this time to give everything a good coat of paint because I hate putting dirty parts on. Personally I would do a black block with silver/black accent valve covers, silver heads, and a silver/polished SC. It's also a good chance to give the engine bay a good scrubbing. Maybe you could get creative and start hiding things like wires and hoses and vacuum lines.

I would also take this time to consider rebuilding/upgrading the trans and timing chains and to get a set of headers. The trans because breaking those aren't fun, so driveshafts and beefier internals to start. Timing chain because again they're not fun to break/stretch AND you have so many miles it should be done soon anyways for both the chain and the trans. Lastly the headers because power and if you break a bolt the block is out and right there so it would be really convenient to drill it out vs. being under the car going at some weird angle. You could also throw in a bigger radiator but you shouldn't really need it. You could even grab just an intercooler core and worry about plumbing it up and everything once your wallet has recovered from this excursion.

I know people have gone without upgrading the tranny/timing chain with similar setups and have been fine but it sounds like you want more power down the line. However I would put the headers as almost a must because even though you have a plog there will still be restrictions vs. a full set of headers. The engine is going to be putting out and taking in more air so allowing it to breathe properly will give you some nice gains. If you're feeling crazy you could even do a port job on the heads because again, everything is out so now is the time to do it.

Take lots of pictures and keep us informed  bonk
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PostSubject: Re: Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv   Charlie Robinson's '99 Riv - Page 12 EmptyWed Jul 23, 2014 1:32 am

Yeah go for the L26/L36 compression. Does Bill get new pistons and stuff or how's that all working?
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how much would the new L36 rebuild cost?
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