| Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) | |
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llamalor2112 Junkie
Name : Evan Age : 32 Location : Granite Falls, WA Joined : 2012-07-13 Post Count : 852 Merit : 13
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:53 pm | |
| Really the thicker you go the more clearance issues you'll start to run into. Both w/ the brake fluid reservoir And the hood. Don't want to start getting hood gap. I'd still be curious if someone were to craft an stb for the riv a la modern stb's. Those flatter arched bars with the furled edges...
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:00 pm | |
| I don't think many would pay for it. If we're questioning $65 shipped for a brand new OEM bar, it's going to be hard to sell a forged aluminum or carbon bar for $500 plus. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:12 pm | |
| - AA wrote:
- I don't think many would pay for it. If we're questioning $65 shipped for a brand new OEM bar, it's going to be hard to sell a forged aluminum or carbon bar for $500 plus.
aint that the truth. i bet i could fabricate a bar for less than $15 bucks.thats just for the materials.im guessing maybe even less than that. i can buy 20 feet of 065 wall 5/8s tubing for around $15 bucks. 3/4 tubing around $20 bucks. youre not paying for the materials really.youre paying for the labor. the more fabricating i get into the more of a bitch it is.working on steel is not easy. the cutting and the welding, the fumes and the setting up.Hard. | |
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charlieRobinson Expert
Name : Charlie Age : 39 Location : Knoxville, TN Joined : 2011-05-17 Post Count : 3924 Merit : 31
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:06 pm | |
| Located one for $49.99 shipped. Might pull the trigger on this one. | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:26 pm | |
| Shipping included, that's a fair deal. | |
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charlieRobinson Expert
Name : Charlie Age : 39 Location : Knoxville, TN Joined : 2011-05-17 Post Count : 3924 Merit : 31
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:22 pm | |
| Wow, this might be the first one to fit so well without rubbing the brake fluid reservoir. Nice job! _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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llamalor2112 Junkie
Name : Evan Age : 32 Location : Granite Falls, WA Joined : 2012-07-13 Post Count : 852 Merit : 13
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:04 pm | |
| Lies and deceit! Photo manipulation! | |
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charlieRobinson Expert
Name : Charlie Age : 39 Location : Knoxville, TN Joined : 2011-05-17 Post Count : 3924 Merit : 31
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:15 pm | |
| I was just as surprised as you guys. Definitely giggled a little a bit when I realized it was going to be a perfect fit. | |
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artlock Amateur
Name : Art Age : 56 Location : PG County MD Joined : 2011-11-28 Post Count : 36 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:40 pm | |
| I'm still wondering here. Does anyone know if the STB fits on the 95 series one the same way? I saw Gmann put one on his 95 but he has a series 2 engine. Does that matter at all? I am looking to do this upgrade. I just want to be sure. Thanks! | |
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llamalor2112 Junkie
Name : Evan Age : 32 Location : Granite Falls, WA Joined : 2012-07-13 Post Count : 852 Merit : 13
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:44 pm | |
| Fit is the same on the 95. The master cylinder clearance issue remains on all years 95-99....except for Charlie apparently haha | |
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artlock Amateur
Name : Art Age : 56 Location : PG County MD Joined : 2011-11-28 Post Count : 36 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:50 pm | |
| Cool,thanks! I think I am going to do this one! | |
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charlieRobinson Expert
Name : Charlie Age : 39 Location : Knoxville, TN Joined : 2011-05-17 Post Count : 3924 Merit : 31
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:21 pm | |
| This STS STB is tits. Definitely made a noticeable difference in ride quality and cornering. Much smoother ride now overall. Definitely worth they $50 I paid Jerry to find it for me.
Does anyone else have a '99 with this on? I'd like to know if I am the only one who had it so easy. | |
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1998 Riv Expert
Name : Dave Age : 64 Location : In The AZ Oven Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4502 Merit : 44
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:46 am | |
| The 98 and 99 models seem to have the easiest install. Mine was a 10 min job taking my time.
I believe the 95's have an issue with mounting bolts. They actually used studs coming up from underneath instead of bolts screwing in from the top side of the tower. And the stock studs, I think I've read, can be too short. | |
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llamalor2112 Junkie
Name : Evan Age : 32 Location : Granite Falls, WA Joined : 2012-07-13 Post Count : 852 Merit : 13
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:32 am | |
| That's weird. On my 95 the bar sat right in. In fact I had room to add washers if I needed to. No shortage of bolt | |
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llamalor2112 Junkie
Name : Evan Age : 32 Location : Granite Falls, WA Joined : 2012-07-13 Post Count : 852 Merit : 13
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:58 pm | |
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charlieRobinson Expert
Name : Charlie Age : 39 Location : Knoxville, TN Joined : 2011-05-17 Post Count : 3924 Merit : 31
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:49 pm | |
| I am totally satisfied with this mod and would recommend it to everyone. The car feels even better just going in a straight line not to mention cornering. Love it. I wonder how long it will take to forget how my Riv handled without it. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:31 pm | |
| If you forget, just take the bar off and it will all come back! _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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Ash Enthusiast
Name : Marty Age : 46 Location : S. Central Indiana Joined : 2008-05-21 Post Count : 116 Merit : 4
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:58 am | |
| - charlieRobinson wrote:
- Does anyone else have a '99 with this on? I'd like to know if I am the only one who had it so easy.
I have a '99. It went on fairly easily, but I had to do the dimple modification over the brake system reservoir like llamalor2112 shows in his pictures. You may very well be the only one that had a direct fit with no interference. Maybe during the build of your car, tolerance stacking went in your favor. ?? Yes, a very noticable ride/handling difference after the installation. Remove it? Never. | |
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al_roethlisberger Junkie
Name : Al Roethlisberger Age : 56 Location : Sanford, NC Joined : 2013-03-12 Post Count : 960 Merit : 24
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:39 pm | |
| BTW, it looks like these are still available for about $40 from "Vintage Parts" . According to a thread on a Cadillac forum, "Vintage Parts" bought out some portion of this GM stock.
They appear to have about 20 in stock, for about $40 each (not including shipping).
http://www.vpartsinc.com/
Search for:
GM/ACDELCO AUTO PARTS - 25653157
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charlieRobinson Expert
Name : Charlie Age : 39 Location : Knoxville, TN Joined : 2011-05-17 Post Count : 3924 Merit : 31
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Randy T. Rookie
Name : Randall Thurman Age : 49 Location : SW Missouri Joined : 2013-03-17 Post Count : 11 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Sat May 11, 2013 4:32 pm | |
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al_roethlisberger Junkie
Name : Al Roethlisberger Age : 56 Location : Sanford, NC Joined : 2013-03-12 Post Count : 960 Merit : 24
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Sun May 12, 2013 12:44 am | |
| That is certainly very interesting. It would be great to see if it clears the SC and other bits on the Riviera. Just from a cursory glance at your photos, I think the one clear item in question would be if the bar is going to clear the alternator on the Riviera and also not hit the hood.
I found the following part number on a thread in a Cadillac forum and if the part number is correct, vintage parts has it as well, again for about $40.
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-seville-cadillac-eldorado-forum/185146-will-bonneville-gxp-front-strut-tower.html
http://www.vpartsinc.com/
Part Number#25653157
Can anyone confirm the part number is for the Bonneville GXP strut brace?
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Randy T. Rookie
Name : Randall Thurman Age : 49 Location : SW Missouri Joined : 2013-03-17 Post Count : 11 Merit : 3
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Sun May 12, 2013 9:04 am | |
| Here is a link to the writeup on the Aurora forum, with current part numbers. A lot of places have them listed, but these are hard to find, they may say they have them and then contact you with a little higher quote saying they have to special order them. I got mine from another member on the Aurora forum.
http://aurorah.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=Zoom&thread=15888 | |
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al_roethlisberger Junkie
Name : Al Roethlisberger Age : 56 Location : Sanford, NC Joined : 2013-03-12 Post Count : 960 Merit : 24
| Subject: Re: Write-Up: Installing a Front Strut Tower Brace (STB) Sun May 12, 2013 10:07 pm | |
| The part #s in that thread are different. Vintage Parts only has a match for the right hand bracket.
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