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nigelf Enthusiast
Name : Nigel Age : 66 Location : Fishkill NY Joined : 2009-10-05 Post Count : 161 Merit : 20
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:18 am | |
| I saw one of these in a bike shop and am looking into putting one on the Riv if they do one that fits.
I was impressed with the flow rate (at cold) and the by pass valve... i didn't until then realise initially the oil bypasses the filter until a certain viscosity is achieved.
http://www.motorcycle.com/products/kp-engineerings-reusable-oil-filter-71983.html
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:37 am | |
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- Oh, and to revisit a debate we had a few months ago, I put my foot to the floor with the key off, then cranked the motor until I got oil pressure. I had to do four 10-second cranks before the oil light went out, and the injectors stayed off until the last crank when I released the throttle after I got oil pressure...
Are you filling the new filter with oil? When I change mine, I just start up the engine, never had the oil pressure light stay on more than a second. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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Rickw Guru
Name : Rick Location : Lancaster, MA Joined : 2008-09-13 Post Count : 6282 Merit : 119
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:06 pm | |
| - nigelf wrote:
- I saw one of these in a bike shop and am looking into putting one on the Riv if they do one that fits.
I was impressed with the flow rate (at cold) and the by pass valve... i didn't until then realise initially the oil bypasses the filter until a certain viscosity is achieved.
http://www.motorcycle.com/products/kp-engineerings-reusable-oil-filter-71983.html
Nigel I just looked at the manufacturer's site and saw that they have a filter to replace ours. (PF-52 and equivalent) Now I have to find out if I can source one at a wholesale price from a Motorcycle shop that I have a relationship with. I do not know if they have an account with a distributor, but I will find out. An excellent product that comes from the aviation industry. | |
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Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3174 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:00 pm | |
| - AA wrote:
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- Oh, and to revisit a debate we had a few months ago, I put my foot to the floor with the key off, then cranked the motor until I got oil pressure. I had to do four 10-second cranks before the oil light went out, and the injectors stayed off until the last crank when I released the throttle after I got oil pressure...
Are you filling the new filter with oil? When I change mine, I just start up the engine, never had the oil pressure light stay on more than a second. On a Chevy with a vertical filter, yes... On this thing - what, are you kidding me? | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:08 pm | |
| I'd guess it's mounted at about 75º. You can fill a PF-52 up about 3/4 full and install - even with the front end up on ramps. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^
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Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3174 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:13 pm | |
| Interesting... I would have sworn it was near vertical yesterday. Perhaps it was higher on my jackstands than on ramps.
Correction: I meant near-horizontal...
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:33 pm | |
| I 2nd that, I fill my oil filter about 3/4 full before installing it. Once in a while I'll go too far and a few drops get out, but as long as I start spinning it quickly it never drips too much. I'm right there with a rag anyway... My oil light goes out very quickly on startup post-filter change with this method. I've been doing it for as long as I've been changing my own oil. Hmm, I think I can count on one hand the number of times I've NOT changed my own oil. | |
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LARRY70GS Aficionado
Name : Larry Age : 68 Location : Oakland Gardens, NY Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 2193 Merit : 150
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:44 am | |
| Been using the PF-52 for years. Always fill it 3/4 of the way as mentioned. Oil light goes out instantly.
On my GS455, I use a System1 reusable filter. It has a stainless steel mesh filter that you clean and reuse. The filter comes apart very easily and seals with O Rings. Been using it for 8 years plus. When I bought it, they were about 85.00, now they are about 130.00. I'll have to see how it fits on the Riv. | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: AC Delco oil filter update Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:12 pm | |
| The venerable PF52 oil filter will be phased out and replaced with a PF52E,according to ACDelco customer service. The PF52E will provide a tad more filtration over the PF52 and its outward appearance is changed somewhat in design. Otherwise will bolt right up to the series 1 & 2 engine | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8685 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:47 pm | |
| PF47 has already been replaced with PF47E same general claims. | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:00 pm | |
| right.I'm sure its a cost thing.a little material saving here a little there... | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8685 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:49 pm | |
| - robotennis61 wrote:
- right.I'm sure its a cost thing.a little material saving here a little there...
could even be as simple as a supplier and design change. Thinking about it if you do the design right you could probably cover a **lot** of car models with a handful of filter cores in a fairly wide variety of cans if you used good filter media. | |
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Eldo Expert
Name : Mark Age : 59 Location : West Salem, Oregon... FINALLY Joined : 2009-04-09 Post Count : 3174 Merit : 104
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:29 pm | |
| Well, I'm just gonna' stick with my long, higher-filtration-area WIX/NAPA filters... WIX 51036 & NAPA GOLD 1036 FYI, I just found this interesting page; http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-general/2646467-ac-delco-pf46-e-what-is-the-e-about.html Kinda' sounds like they realized that their filters weren't all that they could be... or else they're worried about the so-called "environment"... | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8685 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:31 pm | |
| - Eldo wrote:
- Well, I'm just gonna' stick with my long, higher-filtration-area WIX/NAPA filters...
WIX 51036 & NAPA GOLD 1036
FYI, I just found this interesting page; http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-general/2646467-ac-delco-pf46-e-what-is-the-e-about.html
Kinda' sounds like they realized that their filters weren't all that they could be... or else they're worried about the so-called "environment"... I get it. Have to cut one open because they've gone to plastic or paper end caps inside the filter. Mmmmmm-kay. I agree with you on the Wix/NAPA, Wix and Purolator filters are fine. Champion makes the cheapie filter for Walmart that's actually a good filter too. | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: PF52 thread type?? Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:07 pm | |
| Anyone know what type of thread the PF52 has? I've gone over some forums but cant find the info.Is it a metric thread or standard? I called ac-delco and they dont have the info!? lol | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:34 pm | |
| if any one wants to know it's a 18 X 1.5 mm pitch. | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Wed May 22, 2013 2:51 am | |
| Autozone has phased out the ACDelco pf52 oil filter. | |
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albertj Master
Name : Location : Finger Lakes of New York State Joined : 2007-05-31 Post Count : 8685 Merit : 181
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Wed May 22, 2013 4:04 am | |
| - robotennis61 wrote:
- Autozone has phased out the ACDelco pf52 oil filter.
Wasn't it superseded by pf52E? | |
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robotennis61 Guru
Name : robotennis Age : 63 Location : las vegas Joined : 2007-12-17 Post Count : 5562 Merit : 143
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Wed May 22, 2013 4:43 am | |
| their inventory no longer carries either one. In Vegas at least. | |
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LARRY70GS Aficionado
Name : Larry Age : 68 Location : Oakland Gardens, NY Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 2193 Merit : 150
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Wed May 22, 2013 9:00 am | |
| I bought a case of these, http://www.ebay.com/itm/WIX-51036MP-Oil-Filter-/330840011746?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d0799f3e2&vxp=mtr
The Wix 51036 is the equivalent of the AC PF-52, and it is a better filter. _________________ 98 Riviera SC3800 All stock except gutted air box. 1970 Buick GS455 Stage1, TSP built 470BBB, 602HP/589TQ Best MPH, 116.06 MPH, Best ET, 11.54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHCda-t_Jls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfT2tEO4XcU
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Abaddon Expert
Name : Scott Location : Macomb, Michigan Joined : 2010-02-24 Post Count : 4315 Merit : 185
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Wed May 22, 2013 9:53 am | |
| Dealer has them still. Not sure why they'd get pulled from a parts store shelf.... And yes, They're PF52E now. For some reason Delco added an "E" to all their "old" filters. (PF47E, PF52E, PF61E, PF46E) | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Wed May 22, 2013 2:47 pm | |
| Just bought an STP version last week, #S3890. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Wed May 22, 2013 3:49 pm | |
| Autozone has them down here still PF52 last i got one. im sure it will go to PF52E soon.
Places should still carry them as they are used on the LT1 motor. _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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Abaddon Expert
Name : Scott Location : Macomb, Michigan Joined : 2010-02-24 Post Count : 4315 Merit : 185
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Wed May 22, 2013 3:50 pm | |
| All the older 4.3's use that filter also....every single one | |
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Reattaron Rookie
Name : Ron Williams Age : 79 Location : Saginaw, Mi Joined : 2012-10-11 Post Count : 10 Merit : 1
| Subject: Re: PF 52 oil filter? Thu May 23, 2013 2:02 pm | |
| After reading your posts on oil filters, i thought you fellow Riviera aficionados might be interested in reading these web sights on comparing oil filters. They're old web sights ( 2007&2008 ) but the info is still good to know ! ! ! http://www.lesabret.com/filters/filter.html http://www.knizefamily.net./minimopar/oilfilters/opinions.html HAVE A GREAT DAY ! Reattaron | |
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