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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyMon Nov 09, 2009 7:38 pm

Snowdog wrote:
Stock. it's weird that the stock exhaust starts from downpipe with 3'' till cat, after cat with 2.5'' to resonator, and from there with 2.2'' till Y... and then 2'' till mufflers... uhh, did they want to save money, and that's why they did all the sections different size?

Actually there are a couple answers...

First of all, any exhaust system will get smaller as you move to the rear because the gasses are losing energy to the restrictions at each stage, and therefore don't need as large a diameter pipe. Also, the pipe sizes may affect the sound of the system as designed, as well as keep the velocity of the gasses up as the pressure drops. Certainly after the Y, each side only needs to be half as big.

One other thing, though: That front pipe is not 3"... Your down-pipe is welded to your cat, not bolted like mine, but it otherwise looks to be the same pipe. It is a double-walled (nice & quiet) pipe with an I.D. of less than that 2.5" pipe behind your cat. That's why it has that "quilted" look to the outside of the pipe. This photo shows the restriction at the flex-joint, too:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24229483@N07/3552772387/in/set-72157618540359112/
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 11, 2009 2:08 pm

today finished the exhaust.
and started the car...
and oh GOD....it sounds louder then iu expected.
is qvaiet as used to be when is just in runing on place...but when step on gas...JEEEEZZZZ!!! lol...well maybe i will make a video, not sure how it will sound on video but. will drive for some time then, maybe need to make it a bit qvaieter.
the whole exhaust as parts costed me +250 euro just on parts...

sprayed ZN on it so it will be protected of rust.
PICTURES UNDER SPOILER
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i not 100% sure but maybe i will mod the tips abit, they look to 'strange' there for me. guess i cut them whti the same line as the rear bumper goes.




and BTW can someone PLEASE help me finding out what's the correct part number for those clips what go on sideskirt on this picture...whit plue marked place.
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if someone could even make a picture of this clip i will be very thankfull.
maybe mines have somethign else there then it should be.


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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 11, 2009 4:07 pm

Copied from: Write-Up: PAINT JOB Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:43 pm

Molding Clip…(5/Side)…circled in BLUE…P/N…16616547

The part number was listed right above where you got the picture thumbsup
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 11, 2009 4:09 pm

BTW, your Riv looks great! bow
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 11, 2009 4:25 pm

i know Rick ordered them but they where not the same frown
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 11, 2009 4:40 pm

Randall,
Do you have a pic of the fastener that belongs in that area.? (The Blue Circles)
I ordered and received the P/N you listed and they are small black fasteners (similar to the one below, in the middle), the picture Timo showed me of the fasteners he removed are completely different.
I'm at a loss at this point. If you have any photo's on file it would be extremely helpful at this point.
The fastener he is looking for is the Large White one in the photo below. Can you confirm that is the correct part and maybe they (monsterpartsonline) sent me the wrong ones.!!!!
Thanks,
Rick

p.s. These White fasteners are the only thing stopping him from finishing his car and I'm sure it is very frustrating for him, I know it has been for me trying to get these little $%^&&^%$.


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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 11, 2009 6:56 pm

This is what I have that came off of mine and I used to re-install it:

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To install these you insert the rectangular top into the metal piece on the rocker molding and then clip it into the body.

The small black one in the center of the picture is for the lower molding on the door:
Molding Clips…(8/Side)…P/N…16615003

The white clip shown, I didn't see at all while painting mine?!? Maybe it was used by the previous owner as a replacement?
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 11, 2009 7:02 pm

Thank you Randall,
The one you have just shown me is what I received for Timo, I was hesitant to ship but now I will.
Thank you for confirmation.
Rick


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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 11, 2009 7:02 pm

I forgot a step:
To install these you insert the rectangular top into the metal piece on the rocker molding, then turn it so it catches in the metal clip, and then clip the rocker molding into the body.

I posted in my paint thread about kind of rotating the rocker to get it in and out also, that is very helpful.
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 11, 2009 7:04 pm

Thanks again,
I'm sure Timo will read this and be very happy.
Rick
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 11, 2009 7:05 pm

Rickw wrote:
Thank you Randall,
The one who have just shown me is what I received for Timo, I was hesitant to ship but now I will.
Thank you for confirmation.
Rick
Not that it really matters but ... WHERE IS MY + FOR IT???
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 11, 2009 7:11 pm

99Rivman wrote:

Not that it really matters but ... WHERE IS MY + FOR IT???
Forgive me.
I turned from the computer to start boxing and preparing to ship them.
Rick
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 11, 2009 7:47 pm

Timo,
One other thing, when you rebuild your AC Compressor, can you do a "Write Up" for the rest of us that may want to do the same in the future.
At least some pictures and special tools used.
Thanks, Rick
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 11, 2009 9:47 pm

Rickw wrote:
Timo,
One other thing, when you rebuild your AC Compressor, can you do a "Write Up" for the rest of us that may want to do the same in the future.
At least some pictures and special tools used.
Thanks, Rick

I didn't know Timo had a bad compressor. For my 2 cents worth, considering the "special" variable-displacement function of these Harrison V-5 pumps and the special tools that invariably seem to be involved in rebuilding stuff like this, I don't think $200 is a bad price for a new one from Four Seasons (with clutch.) Check out the price of this very similar FourSeasons-rebuilt V-5 compressor for a Skylark on eBay:

LINK

I know shipping to Estonia is at least $85, but it might be worth a little shopping on eBay or Ed Morad for a while... According to Rock Auto, the Four Seasons numbers for 1996 & up are 57994/Rebuilt, 58994/New, and they were used till '04 on the Park Ave, 2000-05 on the Bonneville & LeSabre. (and on Rock there was only a $12 difference.) scratch

alien Here's another rebuilt pump for $215, shipped to Estonia:
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 11, 2009 10:21 pm

I shipped him all the seals and whatnot because he wanted to give rebuilding one a try.
If it doesn't work out what you've found are excellent options.
I didn't know they could be had for such a reasonable price, but I haven't had to buy one yet.
The rebuild kit was less than $10.00 for seals and gaskets, but you don't know what your going to find till you open one up.!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyThu Nov 12, 2009 2:59 am

Oh, okay.

Did he get a new orifice tube and accumulator/receiver-dryer, too?
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyThu Nov 12, 2009 10:09 am

Eldo wrote:
Oh, okay.

Did he get a new orifice tube and accumulator/receiver-dryer, too?


nop...

i have lots of seals..for ac tube/pipe connections and compressor. i have a brand new bearign tho..but the most importent sealing supricely wasent in the kit.
its one big sealign what goes on thecompressor axel behaind the bearing.
uno fixed hes compressor and he told me that he buyed that sealign from a local shop by just giving the mesurments for it.
will ask him later where exactly did he get it. atm i have anyways nothign else to do then wait.
soon the rear parking sensors should arrive tho. will install them so it woudl be easyer to park this long car.
i buyed it here. was hell cheap and looks good.
there is lots of other great things for sell tho, like led bulbs..and shiping worldwide free.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10283

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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyThu Nov 12, 2009 12:46 pm

Timo,
The remaining fasteners for you and Yari have shipped.
Hopefully won't take too long to get to you this time. It's a small package, might move faster.
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyThu Nov 12, 2009 12:49 pm

GOOD NEWS RICK!!! Thanks...will be waiting!
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyFri Nov 13, 2009 10:21 am

Thank you very much Rick!
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyMon Nov 23, 2009 1:33 pm

got the simons resonator now.
whitout the res the exhaust sounds crazy loud.
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also the clips arrived so i buted the sideskirts back on the car.
and the parking sensors arrived.
need to paint them car color and install them into the rear bumper.

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cant belive i payed only 29$ for them:D


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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyMon Nov 23, 2009 1:44 pm

So, the last package finally arrived.???
It wasn't lost after all.????

How does it sound with the resonator.?
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyMon Nov 23, 2009 2:19 pm

it sounds smoother.

and btw...had some baaad problems...6 of 12clips broke...cos...FFS the last owner had used some droor clips or dunno what the hell they are on the skirts. so it had those white clips but also he changed the holes. buted some weard red things in them where the white clips cone in. so i had no idea if the red tubes there where from factory..or he buted them. so i pushed the sideskirts on the car whit the new clips on..and they damn all broke!,,,they relly are so fragil..

i was mad as hell and pulled those damn red plastic tubes OFF!...
and truyed to but it after that and it cone on perfectly!...so i had now 6 broken clips..and it took liek 2 weeks for them to arrive...thats long...so i accidently found on unos tabel some white clips...what kinda had the same point..but where buyed for a fiat to attatch some plastic peaces on it.
i truyed it and it holded good. same good as the factory ones and they where even stronger.


in left was the 'genius russian exowners idea how to connect a sideskirt to a car!' in midle the factory one. and on right the fiat one what i used atm.
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dont know how goot they will hold but will test..if im not sadisfied will order more from u rick?
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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyMon Nov 23, 2009 6:40 pm

Think about taking the rear bumper skin off to make it easier to run the wires for the parking sensors. The foam behind the RIv's bumper is dense, I do not think the wires will go in as easy as the sensors.

Let us know.

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PostSubject: Re: Snowdog's Riv   Snowdog's Riv - Page 11 EmptyTue Nov 24, 2009 9:00 am

So, How about some pic's of your finished car.???
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